factory ke with rs problem

I've run into this a few times and it never real dawned on me what the problem may be.  When a Remote Start is installed on some vehicles with the factory keyless entry integrated on the key, the keyless door locks don't work when it's remote started.  For example, on a 08' accord, which has the keyless fob integrated with the key, after you remote start the vehicle, the keyless doesn't work.  You have to shut the car down, unlock with the factory keyless, and then restart the vehicle.  I just ran into the same problem with a 07' camry tonight.  Keyless fob built into the key, and when remote started, you have no control over the door locks unless you shut the RS down.

Anyone know of a reason or, more importantly, a remedy?  For temporary purposes, I had my customers use the keyless entry on the new RS keyfob, but they all complain that they just want to use the factory controls because they are used to it.

We deal mostly with the Avital 4100 and 4200 for our inexpensive remote starts.  These units will however, cease to exist shortly.  In my market, the super cheap remote starts are the king.  It's not uncommon for our shop to do 70-80 of these guys per month, november through february. 

I was just curious because we have been doing more and more business with the local dealerships with add-on peices and the number one thing is remote start.  The dealership only wants the remote start, because most of thier vehicles come with factory keyless.  I'd love to charge the extra fees all day long, and it would be easier if we were dealing with the customers directly, but we have to deal with the middle-man, which is the dealership.

howie ll wrote:

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Also having a similar problem with a Jag XJ8  where the OEM alarm triggers on remote start. There are no ignition leads to this unit in the trunk, I disconnected it and everything worked but I lost trunk release and brake lights. The first isn't a problem, run a wire back from my alarm's trunk release with a relay feeding the + output to the solenoid but how do I solve the second. My only thought is I noticed lock and unlock wires going to it so what if I disconnect  the lock wire? Any thoughts. Yes I've connected key sense and no difference. Alarm is a Clifford Intelliguard 850 with an Intellistart V (IV manufactured elsewhere to the IV)

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are you able to interrupt the main power wire going into the factory unit in the trunk with a relay, during remote start?

howie ll wrote:

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Thanks for the thought but I just want it not to arm, according to what I've checked, (directechs etc) the unlock wire in the door will turn off the alarm so the DEI tech boys told me to relay the unlock (got to flip polarity hence the relay) from the Intellistart....but it doesn't just turning off the alarm doesn't disqarm the factory alarm. I thought cutting the lock wire to the factory alarm would disable the alarm part but keep the processor parts going that controlled trunk release, brake and running light control and monitoring etc, or is that too obvious and simple, has anyone your side of the pond done one? There are no UK instructions. Look on directechs then try finding this car in the UK section. If it's any clue the factory alarm bears some similarity to early GEM units as used on Fords.

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i do know a fella who did one. i'll make a phone call. he never did mention anything about it. i wonder if he had the same problem as you. i'll find out.