cliffnet g5 wizard kit
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=108379
Printed Date: April 17, 2024 at 10:20 PM
Topic: cliffnet g5 wizard kit
Posted By: benno56
Subject: cliffnet g5 wizard kit
Date Posted: October 24, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Hi, I just bought me a Cliffnet Wizard G 5 consumer kit to get control over some features of Clifford caralarms . What wondered me however is the function of the female jack plug that is coming out of the Cliffnet Wizard cable and how to use the cable on a USB port on my PC as was advertised that it could be used with USB ...? Is there some sort of adapter needed ? Thx for your help !
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM
The jack plug supposedly provided 12volts to bench power a unit, it CANNOT be adapted to USB. Believe me we spent 2 years trying. We keep old laptops, loaded with versions 1.1 and 2.2 for just this reason.
Posted By: megaman
Date Posted: October 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Yep, no USB support. I purchased one for the shop about a year ago and have been searching for a PC with RS232 ever since.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM
The reason is the software is very glitched, I never suggest a customer uses it. I only ever use it to change the euro versions 4 digit valet code or siren sounds or crank time and that can be a nightmare, it fails to take then you find it's knocked out all the parameters such as auto arming, timings lock pulses etc. They will go over to Bitwriter in the next year or so (G6). What ever happened to controlling Wiz through a Palm or windows Mobile? In short you need an older computor with that port and pref set to Windows 98.SE XP has troubles and forget Vista.
Posted By: benno56
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 8:20 AM
Well, that makes it clear , just have to find some old PC with an RS 232 port and Windows 98 . Is it still be able to use a palmtop then after all as the adapter is supplied in the kit or is this also false hope ? Thanks for the answers in the first place !!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Listen, if you can make it work with a Palm or Win 6.1 and onwards phone/PDA, let me know, I've got an unlocked HTC touch that would be just right.
Posted By: benno56
Date Posted: October 26, 2008 at 3:20 AM
Happened to achieve an older PC through a friend of mine that runs on Windows 98 and has a RS 232 port ............. I will lock it up in a safe place ! :) Thanks for all advise from you !
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: March 12, 2010 at 1:25 PM
Hi guys. Sorry to drag up old posts but i need a little help. I need an old version of cliffnet and dont seem to be able to find it anywhere. if someone could send me a copy of clifnet 1.1 i would be greatful. On another note, I use usb on my cliffnet 2.2 and it works a treat, I use a usb to serial and set the com port in the control panel to any port 1 - 4 , i am using com 2 this is the converter i use https://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?pcid=20050107104554001&psid=20050117102915002&pid=2005022316346005 I would be happy to send one to the first person who can get me cliffnet 1.1. i would send more if i had them.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM
Love to but I wont. You can't copy them and I've got the only one left so I'm keeping it.
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: March 12, 2010 at 1:43 PM
there must be somethig that can be done, I have an avantguard 4 causing me problems
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 12, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Why don't you tell me what the problems are?
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: March 13, 2010 at 2:53 PM
What if someone lived near Hull, UK that could help me ?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 13, 2010 at 4:07 PM
You haven't answered my question, what's the problem? Also what car? Make, model, year please
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: March 13, 2010 at 4:38 PM
The alarm was bought from ebay, the seller claims that the alarm works and has tried pointing the finger at the install but i have the alarm on a bench and have the same trouble. the relays in the alarm are clicking as if it is activated but without sound from a working siren, neither remotes work even after changing batteries and soldering the usual battery - fob connection. i was also provided with a valet code that does not work. Cliffnet 2. see's the alarm as armed and ask's to disarm before i can continue, I was told an older version might ask for the valet code.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 13, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Three choices:-
Contact Carlos Stuart at Armour Auto, see if they have any Version 1.1., except if it's armed, you won't be able to unlock it without the code, Wiz won't even get into it if it's armed.
If disarmed, with 1.1 you can at least work out the code, test and reprogramme the remotes etc. Second choice, Is there a label on the main CPU? 4 digits after 0 will be the code.
Third choice, send the unit to Armour for testing.
Comment; why oh why do mugs buy electronic equipment off FleaBay?
Hull's a bit far for me to pop over but if you ever get down the A1, I'm just South of the M25 and I have 12volt rig, etc. to test it.
The relays will click as soon as you power up, ie the alarm becomes armed and activated. Have you tried using the remotes once you've plugged in the antenna and its lead? the remotes will not work without the antenna plugged in.
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 4:40 AM
I have tried the code on the bottom of the unit with no joy, I do have the antenna plugged in but its a G4 whip antenna and not an exteneded range antenna, the whip antenna came with the unit but im not sure if it will work with it, I have a car with an avantguatd 5.5 and have tried the whip from the G4 on it and get no response as i would have expected.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Your right by the way, G4 and G5 antennae are not compatible with each other.
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 5:03 PM
what about the g4 remotes, will they work with the g5, i have tried one and cant get it to work with cliffnet.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Only the 450, 500,650 Mk l and the 950, won't work with the 470 or 650 Mk ll.
Posted By: cory_thompson
Date Posted: April 28, 2010 at 12:04 PM
The G4 alarm I have now works,  Not sure why it didnt work to start with but I will post what fixed it. To start with, none of the key fobs worked with the alarm and when the alarm was connected it failed to respond to cliffnet, I tried the valet code and still nothing. the way it started to work was to power the alarm up and send power down the ignition wire, as it the ignition was turned on. Then enter the valet code which allowed me into cliffnet and then to remove all fobs and program them again. all fixed. I hope this helps someone else.
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