06 envoy, remote start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 2:45 PM
Topic: 06 envoy, remote start
Posted By: tbird2340
Subject: 06 envoy, remote start
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 10:10 AM
I just put in a RS1704TW2 with a XK01 into an 06 Envoy.. It remote starts fine but the locks on the aftermarket remote don't do anything..
Door button works fine and the factory remote works fine also..
When I press the unlock / lock on the factory remote the XK01 does light up but I don't hear the clicking in the brain that you usually hear when you press lock / unlock..
The green and blue wires from the brain are going to the green and blue wires from the XK01.. I don't know what else to check!
Thanks for any help!
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Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Oh, I don't have the disarm wire hooked up from the brain to the XK01 if that has anything to do with it.
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 10:13 AM
The wires rest at 4.4V and drop when I press the lock / unlock so it seems like the brain is receiving and sending to the XK01.. Bad XK01?
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Tried another remote start unit and I heard the clicking when unlocking/locking but still nothing happens..
Not sure why the other RS isn't "clicking" but I don't think it's bad..
Is the XK01 the culprit?
Posted By: jmsounds
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 1:53 PM
try the wires going into the module tap them to ground see if works if not you may need to reprogram the module
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: October 25, 2008 at 2:57 PM
I did reprogram the module.. It's on type 1 which is for the Envoy..
Any other ideas?
Thanks!
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: October 27, 2008 at 8:01 AM
Nobody else has any ideas? I'm going to order another XK01 but if that doesn't work I'm at a loss.. Was a simple install so I'm not sure what, if anything, I could have done wrong.
Thanks!
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: October 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM
did you hook up the lock and unlock wires of the R/S to the XK01?? ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: October 27, 2008 at 7:29 PM
kgerry wrote:
did you hook up the lock and unlock wires of the R/S to the XK01??
Yes.. Green of the RS brain to Green of the XK01 and Blue of the RS brain to blue of the XK01.
Posted By: extreme1
Date Posted: October 27, 2008 at 8:02 PM
try reseting it then program it for type 4, we've had a couple that worked that way on the 07+
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Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: October 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM
just did an 07 trailblazer and used a GMDLBP for Passlock2 bypass and locks. worked perfectly. do your lock outputs show a negative pulse when you use the remote. if so its your xk01. the GMDLBP is a little more expensive but will definitely work on your vehicle.
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 10:02 AM
It was the XK01.. Got the new one yesterday and everything worked.
Thanks
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Has anyone ever had any problems with the tach wire in an Envoy? All the diagrams I have say it's the white wire in the blue connector for the 4.2 liter. I see two white wires in that bundle and have hooked them both up and neither of them are testing as tach for my remote starter..
Any ideas? I was literally working for over an hour just on the tach.. It's starting up fine but I have a feeling when it drops below 20-30* I will be getting a call..
Thanks
Posted By: wkndracr
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 10:40 AM
There's no need for tack on an envoy. the bcm starts the car and will automatically compensate for under or over crank. I always turn engine check off and set crank time for 1.0 sec (on the DEI systems I install), and have never had a problem. This is true for all newer GM's. to test for yourself, try to start the car by just touching the key to the start position. most likely, the starter will still stay engaged as long as it needs to even after you let the key go.
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I hope that's the case.. I just have a bad feeling they will be calling..
Thanks for the reply!
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: December 13, 2008 at 8:17 AM
Ok, so they are having issues.. They just dropped it off last night so it sat cold all night and it's 17* here so a good test..
It remote started fine... Ran for a few MINUTES and then shut off.. Remote started again on it's own and has been running fine ever since.. He said one day he was out shoveling snow, he had remote started it, and noticed it just shut off after a few minutes.. I *think* he said it tried remote starting again and it didn't..
I've installed around 30 and never seen any car shut off after a couple minutes of running and then restart.. I've seen them retry three times on the initial start (if tach wire wasn't hooked up etc)..
Any ideas on what to check or anyone see this before?
Thanks
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: December 14, 2008 at 3:16 PM
I've just mentioned it in another post actually - I've had some late model GMs not working well with voltage sensing, where they'll shut off after a minute or so.
You should be able to use a fuel injector for a tach signal pretty easily. Most wiring info gives you the PCM pin and wire location but I think an injector or coil is much easier to get at and works just as well.
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Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: December 15, 2008 at 5:49 PM
I tried like 6 or 7 different supposedly tach wires (from the diagrams I had).. They all said the white wire in the blue harness.. Well there were multiple white wires, I tested all of them and none worked (not sure how to test them with a DMM so if anyone knows how and could post it that would be great)..
I just tested by using the remote start brain and putting it in "tach finder" mode..
This freaking sucks because if I can't find the tach wire how am I supposed to fix this?
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: December 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM
"NOTE *3 The PCM (Power Control Module) is located on the DRIVERS SIDE of the ENGINE, on the 4.2L engine, it is a BLUE Plug, Pin 49. On the 5.3L engine it is on the LOWER front driver side of engine GREEN Plug Pin 10."
Could NOT find it.. :(
Posted By: joch1314
Date Posted: December 15, 2008 at 6:09 PM
To test your tach wire with a DMM you need to set your meter to Volts AC. Then ground the negative probe.... and hook your positive probe to the suspect wire. If you read between 1 and 7 volts AC then you have the correct wire and continue with the tach learning to get it done. If you get nothing.....keep trying till you do! Don't give up even though you may get frustrated....attack it with a cool head and I'm sure you'll win. ------------- ...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..
Posted By: tbird2340
Date Posted: December 15, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Thanks a alot for the info..
So do you think that is the issue with theirs? I've never had one start, stay running for a few minutes, and then shut off and try to restart..
Any tach issues I've ever had involved the car over or under cranking and then trying three times but never actually starting and running.
Thanks again.
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