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2000 silverado remote start?

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 9:00 AM


Topic: 2000 silverado remote start?

Posted By: roooler
Subject: 2000 silverado remote start?
Date Posted: October 28, 2008 at 2:34 PM

Hello everybody recently i have been putting a CrimeStopper RS-1304 remote start and keyless entry unit in my truck i am using the GM 555L bypass module for passlock 2 i had everything wired in and the truck started however the keyless entry never worked.. my brother in law thought he new how to program my remote to get the keyless entry to work and now to say the least the truck wont even start.. i rechecked all my connections and still nothing.. sometimes when i start the truck with my key and then turn it off the truck will remote start right after the key is taken out however if you wait 5 minutes the truck will start then die..

IM IN A BIND!!

help me please

RoOoLeR@gmail.com

Thanks



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Posted By: brcidd
Date Posted: October 29, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Did you tap into the light blue and white wires?  for lock and unlock?



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Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.




Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: October 29, 2008 at 9:54 AM
brcidd wrote:

Did you tap into the light blue and white wires?  for lock and unlock?


that was a quick edit.





Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: October 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM
brcidd wrote:

Did you tap into the light blue and white wires?  for lock and unlock?




were at are those wires located? also does the crime stopper connect to them or does the 555l Module?




Posted By: brcidd
Date Posted: October 29, 2008 at 2:46 PM
The Crimestopper uses those- with a relay for each since they are positive energize

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Brcidd - Engineer That Does Remote Starter Installs on the side.




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: October 30, 2008 at 9:04 AM
i will be sure to check into the lock/unlock wires..does anyone know were at on the truck they located? also any ideas on why the truck wont stay running?




Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: October 30, 2008 at 11:23 PM

1. your lock wires are in the brown plug on the BCM which is right under the steering column. they are positive trigger and your crimestopper wont drive them without relays.

2.  your truck starting and stalling is due to an issue with your 555L and Passlock2. double check all your connections. if everything is ok, unplug the 555L for a bout 30 seconds. plug it back in  and start the car to reprogram it.





Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: October 31, 2008 at 9:10 AM
thanks for the help i will try this weekend.. how do you set up a relay for the lock and unlock wires? i have them connect to the crimestopper but how do i relay it?




Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: October 31, 2008 at 7:33 PM
you will need 2 relays one for lock one for unlock. your output wires from the remote start will go to pin 85, pins 86 and 87 will go to +12 volts and pin 30 will connect to the light blue and dark blue in the vehicle




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: November 02, 2008 at 10:05 AM
ok still in a bind here...i rechecked all the connections on the 555l and there all good...i also unplugged it and let it sit and it still didnt work?? any other things to try?




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: November 02, 2008 at 3:54 PM
BIG UPDATE* (sorry for the second post)

Ok so i checked everything again and still it would start then die.. i then put my key in and started the truck... while the truck was running i pushed the remote start button and pulled the key out of the ignition.. the truck remained running. i then turned the truck off with the remote start and tried remote starting it..It DID start..however i waited 10 minutes and tried remote starting it again and once again it would start then die..

I then repeated the process of starting it with the key and everything and it will start but if you wait over like 4-5 minutes and then try remote starting it...it will start then die..

wth is causing this? any help would be tremendously appreciated as were im about to freak out..

Thanks everyone




Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: November 02, 2008 at 7:55 PM
double check the programming features of the remote start...if you went tachless make sure it isnt set for tach. things like that. if all features are right then you may be looking at a bad 555L.




Posted By: scottsstarter
Date Posted: November 02, 2008 at 9:43 PM

What type of bypass are you using?   this truck does have pass 2.          Also when hooking up tach on these the only way to go is to ecm just below batt under black cover pull it out flip over look for pin 10 white use a small screw driver too pull out connector it has to be one or the other. however if this truck was a fleet it may not have pass2.  the key would have no effect unless you turned it at just the right time while remotestarting to show res. If you need further help let me know.         also if you are using relays you will need to use 2 diodes and not only on 87 to 85   but one from 85 on same relay with cathode facing towards ground out while running from unit. I can e-mail you a digram let me know if you need it , for some reason i cannot attach it.



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Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: November 02, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I am using the 555L gm bypass module yes it is pass lock 2...also i have the tach wire hooked to one of the wires on the engine im having a brain fart and cant think of what it is called..its on one of the cylinder wires if i remember right?? is this not the right place? i will take any help i can get..

also scott could you explain a little bit more about were my tach wire should be??
THANK YOU everyone for your help!!

RoOoLeR@gmail.com




Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 9:07 PM
It really does sound like a Passlock issue. I am quite familiar with DEI products, not Crime Stopper stuff, but with DEI if your tach isn't programmed correctly or the wrong tach wire, the truck will crank just not fire. Does the security light come on when remote started? That is a good indication that passlock isn't being integrated correctly.




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Yes i do believe the light comes on when it is remote started.. this is a picture of were i have my tach hooked to.. is this not correct?


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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 4:51 PM
what are you using a scotchlock?




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 5:59 PM
for the connection? its a T connector cutting into the Tach wire and then the other wire is connected to the T connector with a Flat Male Spade. if that is what you were wondering?




Posted By: scottsstarter
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Tech wire at ECM , it is right below battery uder black plastic cover. Remove cover pull up metal clip and plastic tab to release.

flip over ecm its tricky at first but you will be able to read numbers under gray wire cover you will see 1 thru 5  remove this with a screwdriver and door panel puller take your time if not you'll splt it in the middle (experance, learn from my mistakes) pin 10 is whit and it is your tach. don't try and guess because there is 3 or 4 whites in here. this is a good location on all GM truck planes(i.e. yuk,taho,suburb,danal,H2, all use same ECM)  thru 08 classics ( not new 08 silverado or duramax).



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Scott's the name moble electronics is the game.
Remember to stick it before you kick it.
Get your mind right use your
MULTIMETER!!!!!!!!!!!




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 8:07 PM

thats too much work

unsnap the dash 4 screws remove the cluster

tag the white wire

p.s. get rid of those t-tap/scotchlock

they don't belong in any decent install

there a problem just waiting to happen





Posted By: scottsstarter
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Yes it is a lot of work but however you are ther 2 put in a safety wire for the owner or next mech with his hands in it, Are you not?Plus with all of the new DATA Ecms, Bcms, and DATA based clusters you can get into trouble. And Yes 2010 clusters from GM (also toyota, Chrysler if around, ford(look in mustang pass kick all of which are designed by Delphi)are slated to be Data, I can tell you this due not only am I part of the install club but i'm a founder right out of CTC and  plant 10 at Delphi corparation in Kokomo In. where I install with engineering staff and this is the only sound point that cannot effect the vehicales ignition system in a unsafe back feed manner. 

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Scott's the name moble electronics is the game.
Remember to stick it before you kick it.
Get your mind right use your
MULTIMETER!!!!!!!!!!!




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: November 07, 2008 at 10:35 AM

scottsstarter are you saying you should not grab the tach at the cluster vs the pcm?

if you are you are wrong






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