’05 xb clifford 50.5x, remote start trouble

Hello all, new to the site here. I have gotten some great help here and now looking for help on a more specific problem. I did search a bit but found nothing addressing this problem.

Remote start will activate and crank the starter but the engine will not start. However if I leave the key in the ignition in the on position and use the remote start button it will turn over and run as it should.

Here is what I have hooked up:

Vehicle: 05' xB it did come w/Scion Security

Heavy gauge relay satellite connector

1:Purple (+) Starter output to starter (Starter side)
[color=red]Black small gauge from Ign Switch (Starter side)[/color]
2:Green Starter input from ignition (Key side)
[color=red]Black small gauge from Ign Switch (Key side)[/color]
3:Red (+) High current 12v input
[color=red]WHITE/ Blue from Ign Switch[/color]
4:Orange (+) Output to accessory circuit
[color=red]Blue/Red from Ign Column[/color]
5:Pink (+) Output to primary ignition circuit
[color=red]Black large gauge from Ign Switch[/color]
6:Red (+) (30A) High current 12v input
[color=red]WHITE/ Blue from Ign Switch[/color]
7:Pink/White (+) Output to second ignition circuit
[color=red]BLACK / YELLOW from Ign Switch [/color]
8:RED / White (+) (30A) High current 12v
[color=red]WHITE/ Blue from Ign Switch[/color]

Everything else seems to function properly besides the remote start. I do have the hood pin switch, and neutral safety switch hooked up and those are not causing the problem because the remote start would not activate if that was the problem. I have tested all connections with a multimeter and they are good so it is not a bad connection. The tach wire is connected and was confirmed/learned by the solid LED. Could the factory Scion Security be causing this? I have tried removing the connections to the modules and still the same problem.

If the other wires that I have connected are necessary to post I can do that for more help.

Please confirm if I have any wire out of place or another wire that needs to be connected for the remote start to function fully.

Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance!

Sorry, to make this more readable.



1:Purple (+) Starter output to starter (Starter side)
Black small gauge from Ign Switch (Starter side)

2:Green Starter input from ignition (Key side)
Black small gauge from Ign Switch (Key side)

3:Red (+) High current 12v input
WHITE/ Blue from Ign Switch

4:Orange (+) Output to accessory circuit
Blue/Red from Ign Column

5:Pink (+) Output to primary ignition circuit
Black large gauge from Ign Switch

6:Red (+) (30A) High current 12v input
WHITE/ Blue from Ign Switch

7:Pink/White (+) Output to second ignition circuit
BLACK / YELLOW from Ign Switch

8:RED / White (+) (30A) High current 12v
WHITE/ Blue from Ign Switch

Yeah both of the ignition wires are connected (Pink and Pink/White). I do not have the key sense wire hooked up currently. I did try wiring this wire to the ground when armed output (Orange) and the status output wire (Blue/White) with no fix.

I have the Pink wire connected to ign 1 and Pink/White connected to ign 2 BLACK / YELLOW.

I did test those wires while remote start is trying to activate and they both are energized.

Yeah I tried that. It will start with the remote starter if it is in the on (run) position.

I have tried grounding the key sense wire already with no luck. It does the same thing. Could it be a bad unit? I did buy it from Fry's Electronics who is known for refurbished products.

Any other ideas, I have done literally everything I can think of with no outcome.

Thanks for your replies I appreciate someone helping me out!

I noticed that ignition 1 (Black) functions like this:

ACC=12v
ON=12v
Crank=0v
Running=12v

Ignition 2 (BLACK / YELLOW):

ACC=0v
ON=12v
Crank=12v
Running=12v

Could this possibly need to be switched at the remote relay from alarm? Pink to BLACK / YELLOW and Pink/White to Black? I have tried so many things I may just burn up my starter lol... any input would be very helpful, thanks!

With the key in the ignition, but in the OFF position, does it start? I know it starts with the key in the on position. Does it start with just the key in the ignition but in the off position?   Until I figure out if it is keysense or ignition problems, we are just chasing our tail.

The Ignition 1 wire going dead when starting does not need to be duplicated when remote starting. It is the wire that kills the air conditioner and other possibly high current drawing non essential items to allow all current from battery to start the car easier.

Sorry I did not clarify. It does not work unless it is in the on position.

Key inserted=No start
Key to ACC=No Start
Key to ON=Start

I just tried it again to be sure, I had the key sense grounded as well. Does the key sense need to be unhooked from the ignition plug and then grounded? Cause all I did was tap it and then ground it. It does activate the key/headlight reminder noise this way.

There are 6 total wires in the ign plug. There are 2 green wires that are not being used. Both are small gauge wires like 16 awg or so.

They function like this:

Green #1
Always 12v

Green#2 (Another ign wire?)
ACC=0v
Key=12v
Crank12v

So I was very anxious to try hooking up this other green wire to the IGN 1 output on the relay and vroom vroom it started! No key sense or anything else was required.


Thanks so much for your help "i am an idiot" :) I spent so much time trying to figure this out when all I needed was this extra wire hooked up. Now it is on for the add on parts. But I will save that for another day.

The green wire is located in the corner of the ign harness.

(I think this should be noted in the xB diagrams)


The green wire would connect to ign 1 output from relay?

Cool glad you got it figured out.  My Dad has an 08, he loves it. 

i am an idiot wrote:

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Cool glad you got it figured out.  My Dad has an 08, he loves it. 

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Yeah me too. I been foolin with it off and on the last week. Driving around w/o a dash was pretty funny. The whole column was exposed too, luckily I have been off work and live in a decent area.

Thanks again for your help. My sis got the 2nd gen there cool but for some reason I like the boxier look better.