viper 5900 on 07 dodge ram issue
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Topic: viper 5900 on 07 dodge ram issue
Posted By: kiowa
Subject: viper 5900 on 07 dodge ram issue
Date Posted: November 03, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I have a 2007 Dodge Ram Mega Cab truck and had a Viper 5900 alarm/remote installed, problem is that after starting the vehicle my horn honks like it does when I lock the vehicle. I tried to disable the horn honk thru the factory keyfob, but the alarm is keeping me from doing that, any ideas on how to get the alarm to stop doing that? Thanks
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
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Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 03, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Does it continuously beep or just beep once to let you know its started?
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Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 03, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Well this doesnt have to do with the remote start, the horn beeps after I have entered the vehicle and started it, it beeps like twice, was just wondering if there was a way to turn that off with the remote of if its a programming option that i would have to take back to best buy to get done. ------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 03, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I have read your owners manual and can't find any information on disabling the horn honk after manual starting. I would describe this to the installer and see if there is a feature that can be disabled. There my also be a problem with the system. Does the horn honk with the siren when arming and disarming? Does the siren sound when starting with the key? There may be a problem with the factory alarm interfacing with the 5900 if your vehicle is equipped with a factory system.
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Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 04, 2008 at 9:43 AM
the owners manual for the truck says that i can disable the horn honking when locking the vehicle (press and hold the lock button for four seconds and then press the panic button and release them together), i have tried to disable the horn honking, but apparently the viper 5900 is not allowing me to do that, what came with the truck is just keyless entry not an alarm system. the horn honks a few seconds after i have manually started the vehicle, it beeps like twice and doesnt beep anymore. yeah the vehicle horn beeps when activating the alarm, beeps a couple of times. i had the system installed at best buy, i stopped by there the other day and asked him why the horn beeps after i have manually started the vehicle, but he didnt know, and he didnt know how to disable it, he said he would get back with me, but he hasnt, i should be able to stop at any authorized installer since its still under warranty right? Thanks. ------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 04, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Yes you can stop by any authorized DEI dealer and they can look at it. However they may charge you since best buy installed it. Some shops will not warranty another's install. You could try contacting DEI. Or pester the guy at Best Buy they should remedy the problem since they installed it and it doesn't sound like its functioning correctly or the feature should be able to be disabled.
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Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 7:27 AM
Yeah I should just take it back and tell them to fix that, I know it's not a big deal, I was just curious to know if it was something I could turn off or if it was something that I had to take back to the installer to get fixed. The horn honking after manually starting the vehicle gets a little annoying after a while, plus people always look to see if I'm honking at them, thanks for the info.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 10:20 AM
There are three different things you can do, the first you can try yourself via the install manual that can be found on this website using the valet switch. It may fix it. 1- Turn off ignition controlled locks(when you turn on your car the doors lock automatically, but newer cars do it anyway so turn it off) 2- Wire a relay for the ground while running for the bypass module. 86--ignition, 85--ground while running from remote start, 30---ground, and 87--brown wire from bypass module. 3- use the pink wire from the relay pack(small little plug on the relay pack not the positive thick ignition wire) and connect it to the brown wire from the bypass module. The 2nd and third require you to have it wired to the brown wire and take off the wire that was on it. Hence, pink to brown direct and not the wire that the brown had connected to it.
Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 11:16 AM
I had just got done reading the manual, and from what I read it sounds like something could be wired wrong as the horn beeps twice like it was remote started, which is not working, apparently dodge has it locked to where it cant be remote started without installing another module with a dealer programmed key, but thats another issue that the installer was looking into for me, I appreciate your reply.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 2:00 PM
what module did he use to bypass the remote start system. Did he use an XK03 only??? He is suppose to use an XK532. The horn honking is the factory alarm. This is a common issue with the bypass modules. Although its on the xk532 which controls the factory alarm and does the bypass. Also, you are still not able to remote start your car??????
Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 3:00 PM
I dont have my paperwork here to know which modules he used, but to my knowledge he only used what came with the Viper 5900 system, the only things extra I had installed was a backup battery and a motion sensor. The truck didnt originally come with remote start, but the Viper 5900 system came with it, well 7 hours later when I went to get the truck he told me that he couldnt get the remote start to work and that he called DEI and they couldnt figure it out either, he said i could buy a module (I have module model number wrote down at home) and a key from the dealership and that would get it working, I havent done that yet because the key that the dealership cuts and programs to my vehicle will cost about $200. ------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: joch1314
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 3:14 PM
So right now the only thing you have working on your truck is the alarm? The remote start is not working at all, correct? The installer should have known prior to you even purchasing the 5900 system that he was going to need a bypass module. The remote start is NOT going to work without a bypass module. The installers there have access to directechs info, and it should've stated there which module to use, which he then would have to ring you up for. That just sounds like poor customer service to me......not dogging the installer, but even a half decent installer would know of EVERYTHING he/she needs to get the job done right, and get the job done the 1st time! Like enice said, the xk532 module from DEI should do the trick. ------------- ...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..
Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 3:41 PM
you're correct the only thing working is the alarm and motion sensor, the remote start doesnt work, when I try to remote start the vehicle, it starts and runs for about 2 seconds and then shuts off, he told me that I needed an module that has a place for a key and then it would work (he didnt have any in stock) he said the best place to get it was ebay, it was like $12 on ebay, which is fine, but the price of the spare key (the key has a chip in it) is what has been keeping me from doing it, the dealership said it would cost like $200 for the key. So are you saying the XK532 is a bypass module that would not need a key for the remote start to work, or I would still need a key for that module? Thanks.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Wow I didn't know the remote start wasn't working. Guess I should have asked. Yes you need a bypass module and an extra key. You don't have to have the dealer program it.
" Self-Programming additional Sentry Keys (requires TWO original keys)
"A" through "G" below is a quick summary of the steps that are required for programming. Following this list, "1" through "6" takes you through the same process in greater detail.
Quick Steps:
A. Purchase a blank key and have it cut
B. Insert original key #1 into ignition and turn to On
C. Wait 5 seconds and turn key to off
D. Immediately insert original key # 2 into ignition and turn to on
E. Wait 10 seconds for SKIS indicator in dash starts to flash
F. Turn ignition off, insert new blank key and turn ignition back on
G. Once SKIS light stops flashing and turns off, your new key is programmed"
Detailed steps:
(1) The first step of course is to acquire a blank transponder key. These can be purchased from your Jeep dealer or bought online. Online prices are usually around $20.00. You can then take the blank key along with one of your original keys to any key maker or locksmith and have it cut to match, just like with any other key.
(2) Insert one of the two valid Sentry Keys into the ignition switch and turn the ignition switch to the On position.
(3) After the ignition switch has been in the On position for longer than three seconds, but no more than fifteen seconds, cycle the ignition switch back to the Off position. Replace the first valid Sentry Key in the ignition switch lock cylinder with the second valid Sentry Key and turn the ignition switch back to the On position. The second valid Sentry Key must be inserted in the lock cylinder within fifteen seconds of removing the first valid key.
(4) About ten seconds after the completion of Step 3, the SKIS indicator in the instrument cluster will start to flash and a single audible chime tone will sound to indicate that the system has entered the Customer Learn programming mode.
(5) Within sixty seconds of entering the Customer Learn programming mode, turn the ignition switch to the Off position, replace the valid Sentry Key with a blank Sentry Key transponder, and turn the ignition switch back to the On position.
(6) About ten seconds after the completion of Step 5, a single audible chime tone will sound and the SKIS indicator will stop flashing, stay on solid for three seconds, then turn off to indicate that the blank Sentry Key has been successfully programmed. The SKIS will immediately exit the Customer Learn programming mode and the vehicle may now be started using the newly programmed valid Sentry Key.
Each of these steps must be repeated and completed in their entirety for each additional Sentry Key that is to be programmed. If the above steps are not completed in the given sequence, or within the allotted time, the SKIS will exit the Customer Learn programming mode and the programming will be unsuccessful. The SKIS will also automatically exit the Customer Learn programming mode if it sees a non-blank Sentry Key transponder when it should see a blank, if it has already programmed eight (8) valid Sentry Keys, or if the ignition switch is turned to the Off position for more than about fifty seconds.
NOTE: If an attempt is made to start the vehicle while in the Customer Learn mode (SKIS indicator flashing), the SKIS will respond as though the vehicle were being started with an invalid key. In other words, the engine will stall after about two seconds of operation.
NOTE: Once a Sentry Key has been programmed as a valid key to a vehicle, it cannot be programmed as a valid key for use on any other vehicle.
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Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Well I didnt want to ask for to much help at one time so I was going to ask for help with something small like the horn beeping after manually starting, so thats my fault. So you think I can find a key on ebay or is there a better site to get that key from? I greatly appreciate all the information.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: joch1314
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Do you have two keys, or just one? just curious because it's not that old of a vehicle, and I would imagine that when you bought it you would atleast get two keys. If you do have two keys, then you wouldn't lose one and you would still be able to bypass the transponder system with the XK532 module. One thing kind of bothers me though....you mentioned that he talked to DEI tech support about the remote start and that together they couldn't get it to work! IMO....BS!! The first thing that they would have asked him is what kind of bypass he was using. "Uh, i don't have one"....that would have been his response! ------------- ...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 6:06 PM
All I would have to say about this is WOW....... Im sorry but I could understand the installer not knowing the module but at least the shop manager would know this. He must of used an XK03 because the horn honking means the factory alarm is either turning off or on and is being triggered by the 5900. At my shop we strive to know everything before the install. If we cant do it at that moment is because there is something wrong with the programming. The bypass modules are sometimes hard to program but that would usually be the issue. Try doing this. Have your key in the ignition of the car and DONT turn it to the on position. Remote start the car. See if it turns on and stays on. If it does then thats all you need is a bypass module. Might of well get a 556u to make it easier.
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: November 05, 2008 at 8:02 PM
well you first check to see if the mux wire is hitched up i would recommend a module vs key in a box the module will do mux plus key or just key if needed if he loses a key its a paiin in the buttox to get the one under the dash out so put the key up to the key cylinder then try starting it
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 4:39 AM
As mentioned above you can test the starter by inserting your key into the ignition and trying to remote start it. They do make bypass modules that do not require a key (I forgot to mention those was reminded by above post).
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Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 9:28 AM
yes I have two keyfobs that came with the vehicle, and yes the vehicle will remote start if i have a key in the ignition but not turned on, I'm going to be deploying here pretty soon and was just going to suggest to my girlfriend to leave a key in the ignition and remote start it once in a while when it gets cold out to keep the battery charged. so the 556u is the best route huh, i would prefer not to have to get another key to stick in the module. another thing that i noticed is that if i start the vehicle with the drivers door open the horn wont honk, only when i have the drivers door closed and manually start the vehicle it honks.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Sounds like you have Ignition Controlled door locks on the Viper alarm. When you start the truck the alarm locks the doors and it arms the factory alarm. When the factory alarm recognizes the truck is started it disarms giving you the second beep. It won't lock the doors if one of them is open thats why it doesn't beep. This is just a hunch I could be wrong.
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Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 2:45 PM
yeah the doors lock automatically when i start the truck and unlock automatically after driving it and turning the vehicle off. before installing the viper 5900 the doors would lock automatically after driving for a couple of minutes, they wouldnt unlock automatically though when the vehicle has stopped and been shut off, but all of this is just me thinking, i would think that stuff like the doors locking and unlocking and the horn honking after manually starting the vehicle would be a settings (programming) issue and not a defect part, but like i said thats just me thinking.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: enice
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 5:07 PM
well thats exactly what i stated earlier in my post. Try turning the feature off on the 5900. Get the install manual in the download section of this website and program it.
Posted By: another-kelly
Date Posted: November 06, 2008 at 8:59 PM
enice] wrote:
well thats exactly what i stated earlier in my post. Try turning the feature off on the 5900. Get the install manual in the download section of this website and program it.
what he said. turn off the ignition controlled locks on the viper 5900. as far as the key situation goes, rather than getting another key made and throwing it in a box under the dash. . .get a bypass such as xk532 or 556C to program to the truck. will cost far less than getting another key made
Posted By: kiowa
Date Posted: November 07, 2008 at 1:34 PM
finally the installer from best buy called me back, he asked me to try using my factory keyfob to try and disable the horn beep, which i'm the one that told him about that in the first place, well he called and said he talked to DEI and they suggested to try the lock and panic button to disable the horn honk, but i had tried that and it didnt work, then he suggested trying unlock and panic button, but that didnt work either, then he said that he would replace the "brain" and see if that worked, so i'm going to take that back to him and see if that fixes it, appreciate all suggestions and direction on getting help.
------------- 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab
5.7L V8
Viper 5900
Posted By: sneakycyber
Date Posted: November 07, 2008 at 2:51 PM
I am interested in how the installer is going to fix this or say he fixed it. I understand it may be different since we can't actually see the truck or what he did but it sounds fishy.
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Posted By: joch1314
Date Posted: November 07, 2008 at 3:57 PM
yeah.....i agree with you sneakycyber....this whole install has sounded fishy from the beginning! Of course, he is the one who has done this whole install, so actually working on the vehicle would give him some more insight!
------------- ...half of the truth can be worse than a lie. <----Roger Russell said that..
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