remote start ,02 grand am
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Printed Date: April 28, 2024 at 10:41 PM
Topic: remote start ,02 grand am
Posted By: nick m
Subject: remote start ,02 grand am
Date Posted: December 02, 2008 at 12:51 AM
I just purchased a 2002 Pontiac Grand AM GT for my son, (1st car). I noticed there is a small black antenna mounted to the windshield with a cable going into the headliner area. My mechanic said that is usually for an alarm. I do have a factory remote for the locks. Any suggestions on how to determine if the car is equipped with an alarm. Someone suggested it may be for a remote starter. I have never owned a car with an alarm system or a remote starter and am looking for some help. Thanks!
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Posted By: brhaugen
Date Posted: December 02, 2008 at 6:37 AM
You are going to have to look under the dash to see if there is an Alarm or Remote Start "brain" box under there. The antennae wire should go across the headliner to the drivers A pillar, down it (behind the trim) and under the dash. Follow it if you can.
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Brent Haugen
Fargo, ND
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 02, 2008 at 8:42 AM
Thanks for the advise, I will take a look and see what is under the dash.
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Had some mechanical work done to the car and when the mechanic reconnected the battery the car started up by itself. I have to check at the car audio shop to see if a new remote is available.
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: December 12, 2008 at 6:52 AM
That sounds like a DEI brand remote starter. That "feature" of starting up by itself seemed to be one of their trademarks.
If you have a digital camera, maybe you could post a picture of the antenna, or even the brain.
But since the car did start up, surely it still has the remote starter in it, and it's probably still working, too.
If you can see a model number on the main brain of the unit, that would help a lot.
Also, while you're under there, look for a black pushbutton switch, probably zip-tied to one of the existing wire harnesses under the dash, or maybe drilled and mounted into a hole on that black under-dash panel. You'll need to know where that button is to program the new remote(s).
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 12, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I found the DEI warning sticker under the hood, (Warning vehicle is equipped with autostart and may start.....) I did not see a switch like described under the hood. Next step is to take the under dash panel off and look for the module. Can I obtain a remote and programming instructions if I find the model number of the system?
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: December 12, 2008 at 6:03 PM
nick m wrote:
I found the DEI warning sticker under the hood, (Warning vehicle is equipped with autostart and may start.....) I did not see a switch like described under the hood. Next step is to take the under dash panel off and look for the module. Can I obtain a remote and programming instructions if I find the model number of the system?
depending on what model it is, you might even be able to get the instructions right here on this site.
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 12, 2008 at 6:46 PM
I just have to get the model number asap. Can any of these systems work using the car's factory remote?
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: December 12, 2008 at 6:56 PM
to make it start it it could be done with some more wiring, but not really to function as an alarm.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 12, 2008 at 7:30 PM
autostart also has issus of starting on its own.
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 18, 2008 at 8:33 PM
I recently aquired a Pontiac Grand Am (2002) and it has a DEI remote start in it. I found out it was there and working when it started automatically after the battery was reconnected in the car. I only have a factory remote with the car. Pictures are posted from under the dash. I am assuming the small box is the passlock bypass and the larger box is the remote's module. Does this brand/setup look familiar to anyone? Any suggestions on what's next in getting it to work with the existing remote or do I have to aquire a DEI type remote ?
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM
**Please include your images in your post. Thanks in advance.**
Posted By: dtk1
Date Posted: December 18, 2008 at 11:53 PM
it is a DEI now there might be 3 "boxs"/brains in there from what i can tell on the pictures try to see if you could find the biggest one that would be the brain of the alarm the one that i saw on the picture is the XCRS relay pack there should be another "box"/brain that would be for your pass lock and the main "box/brain"would be a bigger than both of them once you get that you should be able to see the model of the unit should be on the bottom left once you get that you should be able to get the correct remote
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 19, 2008 at 2:32 AM
thanks, I will keep looking.
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: December 28, 2008 at 11:11 AM
I found the following modules: Valet 562T, DEI model 5552, XCRS exreme capacity relay satellite 1000M. I did not locate a valet switch yet. Any favorite spots on a Grand AM? I found a owner's guide online and it looks like the unit came with two remotes. Any thoughts on replacement sources or can I program the factory remote to work the unit? Thanks, Nick
Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: January 15, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Installed valet switch today and programmed new remote for the system (Valet 562T with 4 button remote model no. 474T). Unlock button does not work, Power lock works, truck pop works, remote start works. I see some applications require a relay to operate the unlock mechanism. There is a relay wired in under the dash but I am unsure if it is for the unlock. Does this problem sound like a programming issue or a hardware issue? Thanks.
Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 15, 2009 at 9:23 PM
sounds like hardware
Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 15, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Unlock on that vehicle is (-) through a 1500 ohm resistor, lock is a straight (-) trigger.
Most likely IMHO the problem is that the resistor used going to the unlock has broken or otherwise become disconnected.
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Posted By: nick m
Date Posted: January 15, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I see the wiring diagram shows a blue wire as the (-) unlock, I will look for the resistor to be spliced into that wire and inspect it. Thanks!
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