Clifford Ag4 Install help Plzzz

Hi,

This is my first time posting so sorry for any spelling or grammar errors. I was looking for alarms and found the clifford avantguard 4 to be the one I wanted. The problem was in my zipcode 97404, there was only 2 authorized installers. 1 The good guys, and I knew I didn't want them touching my car. 2. Custom Audio a small shop that just opened. So I went down there and asked them if they could do it and they said sure no problem. They said they've never done it before but he didn't see a reason why he couldn't. So since they didn't have one I found an authorized dealer online and bought one from him. I but all the accessories I wanted and brought it to him today for the install. He started taking off the panels and downloaded the wiring diagrahm and then started talking to his buddy. They then both came up and said they weren't going to be able to install the alarm for the price they quoted me, which was $200. I was like "So how much". They said if they decided to do the install it would take them a day and a half which would cost $600. I was like what the hell how did that change from everything before. And he made up some stuff about messing with factory wiring. I am very upset now, I have a $700 paperweight. I called around everywhere and no one will install it :(. I live in eugene, Oregon. The car is a 2000 jeep Cherokee with power windows and door locks. Please if anyone knows an installer that can do this I would really appreciate any help.

Thanks, Adam

auex]T wrote:

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e vehicle you have needs an adapter because it has multiplexed wiring(computer controlled locks, door trigger, windows, and anything else going into the doors). Without this module they would have to go into all of the doors and it would take a while, don't know about over a day, but this is something an experienced installer should know about. You can buy a module that should be able to operate these functions for 50 bucks, really easy to install, and take it to a shop that has more alarm exp. Is the alarm old (actually clifford) or is it new ( made by dei)?

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First of all, thanks a lot for the reply. I really appreciate it. I did not know there was an adapter and obviously these guys wern't very experienced with alarms. Where would I buy this adapter and what is it called? The alarm is made by Clifford I think? How would I find out for sure? It says clifford everywhere around it. Can you reccomend a shop or anything?

Thanks, Adam

auex]Y wrote:

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u will also need a immobilizer bypass if you are doing remote start, like DEI's 555u or 555c.

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I thought I only needed that if I used the transponder key? I do not have the transponder keys. Do I still need this?

Thanks, Adam

auex]T wrote:

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e integration module is for DEI 455j.

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When I looked up this module it said "grand cherokee" I have a regular cherokee does that make a difference? or do they both use the multiplexed wiring?

Thanks, Adam

auex]N wrote:

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t if you don't have the transponder key. If your key has a rubber surround and one is black and the other is grey then you probably have an immobilizer.

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No when I bought the car I remember them telling me it didn't have the transponder key thing. Both my keys are black. I think that DEI 455j is only for the grand cherokees, or am I wrong?

Thanks, Adam

auex]I wrote:

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must have skimmed that to quickly. That should be a straight forward alarm then. They shouldn't need more then 4-5 hours for that alarm. There isn't much special about the wiring for that vehicle.

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That doesn't make sense then. None of the places around here want to install it, they say it is too difficult? Are they just unexperienced installers or what? The place I went to was authorized clifford dealer and they didn't even want to do it. They said it was too dangerous messing with the factory wiring and such. I really need to get this installed to bring my insurance premium down and get my car protected. I park in a dark alley everyday for work and I've already had one stereo stolen. If anyone knows someone around the oregon area that could install this at a reasonable cost I would really appreciate it.

Thanks, Adam

Velocity Motors wrote:

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The alarm has a built in window roll up module in it's CPU & the Jeep's window system is a basic type A (-) trigger system. If this is only the Jeep Cherokee, it has a basic door lock system ( -) that you will require a couple of relays for. I don't know what all the hooplah is about if it's just a basic alarm installation with window roll up control ?

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Yeah I don't know either. They made it out to be the hardest alarm in the industry to install. He said it would take 2 days. Maybe oregon installers are just unexperienced :(.

Well taking auex's advice I went to install it by myself today. When I opened all the panels I just didn't feel comfortable enough cutting the wires. I was afraid I was gonna short something. I really need someone to install this for me. If theres anyone in or around the oregon area that could install this alarm for me I'd really appreciate it. I could drive at a max 400 miles. Please let me know.

Adam

email xe0@clanwutang.org

[QUOTE=drvnbysound]First of all I want to say that the AG4 is NOT A basic install. If you would go to the DEI site and download the installation manual on the alarm you will see. I have previously worked for a Clifford Authorized dealer and have previously looked into getting the alarm for myself. The owner of the shop I was working for had called Clifford about it, and they stated that they alarm would take a full 2-3 days for a Certified MECP installer to install it as it was built to be installed. I can understand why the shop would charge the amount they stated, however I dont understand why no one will attempt it. The AG4 has wireless fuel shut off for the fuel pump, etc. Like I said its not a basic alarm install.

Just thought I would enlighten everyone.
For additional information, please feel free to e-mail me @   drvnbysound@aol.com[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, after looking at all the wiring I can definently say it is not "basic". However,  I would think that people that install alarms for a living would at least attempt this. It seems to me like the only hard part is finding the wires you need to tap into. I guess I have an expensive paperweight until I find someone that will attempt to do it.