giordon alarm/remote start, 91 240sx
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 17, 2024 at 11:56 AM
Topic: giordon alarm/remote start, 91 240sx
Posted By: cha209
Subject: giordon alarm/remote start, 91 240sx
Date Posted: December 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM
yes as the title says... i just bought a giordon alarm from ebay its the remote start combo one and it doesn't comes with wire diagram or user manual. can anyone please guide me how to install my alarm. my car is a 91 nissan 240sx.
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Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 15, 2008 at 9:44 PM
yea i just hook up my alarm that i bought form ebay... just got a wiring diagram from the person i check out the diagram and hook up my keyless entry on but im confuse on the remote start there is a yellow wires that it said to connect it to the primary power wire of the hp winding cut off... im not sure what wires is that can anyone please help me... i have a 91 nissan 240sx...
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 15, 2008 at 11:11 PM
can you upload the diagram. i have a feeling its a starter kill ouput. check it with a dmm. Red to constant 12v. black to the yellow wire. The yellow wire if shows negative (dmm shows 12v) ONLY when you lock the doors. then its a starter kill output.
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 16, 2008 at 9:31 PM
well i dont have a scanner right now so i cant upload the diagram... but it comes with 4 relays. the first relay it said to starter motor wire, the second one is to cylinder on wire the third is to ACC air conditioner power wire and the last one is to primary power wire of the hp winding cut off. the last relay i dont get it cause it says connect to primary power wire of the hp winding cut off im not sure what does that connect to...
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 16, 2008 at 9:36 PM
o and one more thing on the starter motor wire... the alarm only have 1 wire and my car has 2 starter wires on is the primary and the other one is the cold start. so do i have to cut both and splice it with the other wire.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM
i think i have one of these manuals lying around since i installed one of these and it busted my ass. but i will get back to you later. btw DO NOT splice into both starter wires and join them. The car has 2 seperate start wires for a reason. its not meant to be joined together.
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM
ok thanks for the tip.. but what do i do then if i cant splice 2 wires into one do i just put only the primary starter wire on only or is there something that you have to do to it.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM
i cant seem to find the manual. but the starter wire is simple to do. connect the starter wire from the rs to the first starter wire on the car. now go get a 12vdc 30/40 amp relay, and wire like so 85 - ground when running (-) 200 - 500 ma output from alarm
86 - tap into start wire one
87 - constant 12v
30 - to second start wire on car.
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
ok i understand what are you saying but can i use the existing relay that comes with the alarm or do i have to get a separate relay...
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM
the extra relay they gave to you was meant for use as a starter kill or ignition kill. can you list the wires off of the relay pack. i will show you which goes to what wire on the car. There should be 4.
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 19, 2008 at 10:00 AM
ok the diagram says that,
blue to starter motor
brown to cylinder on wire
green to ACC air conditioner power wire
yellow to primary power wire of the hp winding cut off.
well thats it only 4 wires coming out of the alarm box to each relay and out another 4 wires which is the top that i just id it for you thanks...
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 19, 2008 at 5:02 PM
okay i figured it out. thinking back to the post about where i mentioned that additional relay was a starter kill, i was correct. you just didnt mention that the relay pack was actaully 3relays strapped side by side and the 4th was addition that could be added to the pack of 3. 1) BLUE - connect to STARTER BLACK/ WHITE @ ignition harness
*note: when installing a starter kill, wire this start wire AFTER the relay (or towards engine or fuse box away from cylinder)
2)BROWN - connect to IGNITION BLACK/ RED @ Ignition harness
take a relay, wire it up like so
85 - ground when running from unit
86 - tap into brown ignition wire from unit
87 - constant 12v fused @ 20 amps
30 - to IGNITION 2 BLACK / YELLOW @ ignition harness
3) GREEN - ACCESSORY BLUE @ ignition harness
4) YELLOW - connect to a relay like so. 85 - tap into ignition 1
86 - yellow wire from alarm
87 - not used
CUT STARTER WIRE IN HALF
87a - starter wire key side aka from cylinder
30 - to starter solenoid (wire towards car or fusebox. you will also as i mentioned in the not connect the blue wire to the wire towards engine) the 4th is not necessary to hook up, but it just prevents the car from being started when you lock the doors (only works if auto car) if manual, insted of cutting starter, cut ignition. i will help you get this up and running. think of it as a xmas gift ahah. cheers !
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 19, 2008 at 10:33 PM
ok so the 4th relay i dont really need to hook it up then so basically i can just use that as a spare for the wires that i might need to use a relay on then. and yea hehe thanks for the gift then, well im sorrie i have nothing to give back but my appreciation only but still thanks alot for your effort.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
let us know if you get it up and running.
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 20, 2008 at 4:05 PM
ok today i just hook everything up just the way you show me how to but its weird because when i try pushing the startup button it the relay clicks and the alarm box clicks too and nothing but when i hold down the clutch pedal and try doing it form the inside of the car every time the relay click the engine try to turn over but the relay click on and off so the engine crank on and off it doesnt stay on long enough for the engine to run, so im not sure what might be the problem.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 20, 2008 at 10:30 PM
did you connect all ignition and starter wires. missing one will cause the car not to start.
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: December 21, 2008 at 4:10 AM
yes i connect all but the 4th relay that you said that it is necessary to hook it up so i didnt if thats the problem then its my bad... if it is then ill hook it up tomorrow then if it works then i made the mistake, but if still do the same thing then i think that it might be the alarm box it self cause i dont think that it would click even if i didnt hook up the 4th relay right...
Posted By: daughtry
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 9:54 PM
Cha209, did you ever get this remote starter to work? I have the same one and am still trying to figure it out. Did tedmond's tips help?
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 2:48 AM
well i did get it to work but i just crank on and off it doesnt crank until the car start so my guess is that my main unit is bad... you can try it out and let me know how it goes...
Posted By: slygt
Date Posted: March 01, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Hey guys im having the same problem hooking up the smae type of remote start. I was wondering there is a puple wire ( startup detection ) which says it is to go to the engine oil sensing or oil indicator on instrument panel, It also says it can be connected to lock cylinder ON. Is this right can someone help me out. Thanks guys
Posted By: cha209
Date Posted: March 02, 2009 at 2:42 AM
yea you can hook it up to the cylinder on or you can just hook it up to your rpm cluster. thats what i did on mine and it works fine.
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