Autopage RS 750 - Need Lots Of Help!!
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: Autopage RS 750 - Need Lots Of Help!!
Posted By: RaveChild
Subject: Autopage RS 750 - Need Lots Of Help!!
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 1:25 PM
I have recently installed this alarm in my 1996 sunfire gt. 1. The remote start doesn't work. The relays in the unit click but the car doesnt event go into prestart. I tried turning the key to on and then remote starting and still just clicks from the unit but the starter doesnt engage. 2. Remote doorlocks dont work. According to the installation instructions and wiring diagrams for my car, i am to hook the alarms GREEN/ blue wires to the cars lt. blue/white wires (located in either kick pannel) for the remote locks, which I did (to the wires in the drivers kick pannel), but they dont work. BTW my car has keyless entry. The car previously had a commandstart 2400/2500 installed in it so I just used the bypass relays (for the theftloc) that were installed with that system. But it doesnt look right to me. There are three realys and two resistors all wired together to bypass the theftloc. Is this right??
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Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 1:43 PM
Ok. The car will remote start now, but it won't stay running. I have tried it on rpm and voltage settings. What could it be?
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 2:47 PM
I have also got the locks working now. Wired into the passengers kick pannel. So now my only problem is that the car wont stay running when I remote start. Any ideas??
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 3:32 PM
I don't know why your paslock would need more the one relay to bypass. You didn't mention this time if it stays running with the key in it.... does it?
Posted By: 2vmodular
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 4:15 PM
Most recent autopage units have a BLACK/ white "neutral safety" wire, make sure that it's grounded.
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 5:42 PM
yeah the BLACK/ white wire is grounded. I cant tell you if it starts with the key in cause the battery in my car is dead....lol
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 5:51 PM
also if some one could post a diagram of how to properly bypass the theftloc. Maybe I will be able to figure out why there are 3 relays wired together.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 5:53 PM
Your best bet is to use voltage checking mode, but if that does not work like you said, then program the module to timing mode. This mode only attempts to start your car one time and will leave the ignition and accessories on regardless of whether or not the car started. You need to use this mode only temporarily until you solve the Passlock problem (or as you referred to it theftlock, which by the way is what your stereo has). Anyway, I am telling you to use this timer mode, because this will guarantee that the remote starter is not the problem.
It is like floaterr said, I am not sure why they used two resisitors unless they are in parallel in order to get the proper resistence, but whatever the case may be: Your problem no doubt lies in the passlock bypass method. How did you integrate the Autopage with the already installed bypass setup of the relays and the resistors? You should have had a wire from the Commandstart that went to one of the pins on one of the relays, and you should have connected the thin Yellow wire (which is the (-) Ign 3 output) from the Autopage to this wire. That is assuming that the bypass method worked and that they used a (-) out when running wire to activate the bypass.
So what you need to do is figure out what is wrong with the bypass.
If you just want to start over, you can follow this bypass diagram here: Look at Diagram #8
Passlock I Temporary Bypass (Diagram #8)
After you T the (-) out when running wire from the Autopage (the Yellow wire mentioned above) you should put a diode on each wire with the band on the side of the Yellow wire.
Good luck and keep us posted ------------- J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 6:48 PM
I tried hooking up the yellow wire to the relays and nothing happened.....wouldnt even go into prestart. So for some reason I desided to use the pink wire to the realys. With it wired this way it turned over, but would not keep running. I think i might just make my own passloc bypass. Where is it that I measure the resistance for the resistor?? And what do I set my DMM to, to test this??? The old remote start did work so the bypass method must be good, right? I just cant figure out why they used 3 relays and 2 resistors??
Posted By: floaterr
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 7:00 PM
www.alarm.floaterr.com
click on the lowest right hand picture. The instructions are there. Should be a picture of a relay and some wires.
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 7:13 PM
To get the resistence value: Strip back the Black wire. Start the car with the key, then cut the yellow passlock wire. strip back the key side of the yellow wire and take a DMM and put one lead on the key side of the yellow wire and the other on the Black wire. Record the resistence, then reverse the two leads and record the resistence. Use the higher of the two resistences recorded as your resistence and then set up the relay diagram using a resistor or a trimpot.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 7:18 PM
Does the IPPME - GM Learnable Passlock Bypass Kit work?
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Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 16, 2003 at 9:17 PM
Yes, but why would you get one of those when you already have everything you need and it would only take a few minutes to install it. I have heard of instances where they dont work though. How are the resistors set up? Are they in two different locations, or right next to each other? This is really a simple thing to do having everything you need in front of you and all. Have you looked ay the diagram I suggested? Do you have any questions about it? All of the wires are alrady tapped for you.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 17, 2003 at 4:06 AM
the resistors are in two locations. When i get home from work today i will make you a diagram of how the relays and resistors are wired.
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 17, 2003 at 3:24 PM
This is the current configuration of the relays. After looking at the diagram that you posted this doesnt look right at all. Do you have any idea why they would have done it like this?? 
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 17, 2003 at 5:21 PM
Are you sure that the thing by the starter wire in the upper right hand corner of the diagram is not actually a diode instead of a resistor? Sorry if I have insulted your intelligence I just cant imagine it is a resistor.
That should work though. I am not sure why it doesnt work for you. Maybe you need to diode isolate the ground out when running wire from the Autopage.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 17, 2003 at 5:28 PM
it could be a diode, it has heat shrink over it. i just assumed that it was a resistor. But if you notice, there is no 12v+ going to any of the relays. Dont they need that power to operate?? Also why does this seem so complicated compared to the diagram you posted??
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 17, 2003 at 8:32 PM
Both diagrams do essentially the same thing. The power going to your relays is coming from the Ignition and the starter. If you look at diagram #1 on that page of mine i show in the simplest way how it works. The passlock computer needs to see the resisitence while the ignition is on, but during cranking, the bulb test wire needs to be grounded, and then after cranking, the computer needs to see the resisitence again, at least for a little while. All three diagrams do this, yours just added a relay to mine because it does not use the Passlock ground wire which is the black wire in the harness. Instead yours uses chassis ground. I am not sure why yours doesnt work anymore though. my guess is that either a connection is now bad, or more likely, there is something installed improperly. It is somewhat difficult to trouble shoot.
I am not sure what to tell you, I would just go try and figure out where the problem lies. Well actually I would just redo the bypass if I was dealing with it so at least i would know for sure that the bypass was right, then go from there. Remember if you decide to use my diagram that pin 30 and 87a on the relay on the left just need to be switched. Keep us posted.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 22, 2003 at 7:01 AM
the remote start is up and running, finally. Now I have a couple of new problems. How do I wire in my remote trunk release? Right now I have the grey wire from the alarm going to the BLACK/ white wire in the keyless module, but it doesnt work. Also my alarm is telling me that the trunk or hood is open all the time even though it's not. Any ideas?
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 22, 2003 at 7:36 AM
You need to use a relay for the trunk release.
I believe that the the transmitter flashes the trunk and the hood because that was the last intrusion detected. I think it will remember the intrusion and flash it for awhile to remind you, I really havent looked into that very much. I would just wait to see what happens.
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 22, 2003 at 9:12 AM
I think it may be the trunk switch that is causing it to say that the hood/trunk is open. I have the blue wire hooked up to the (-) on the trunk light. Is that right cause the voltage on that wire doesn't change when the trunk is opened or closed??
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 22, 2003 at 9:14 AM
Also, how do I wire the relay for the trunk release??
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 22, 2003 at 10:53 AM
One more thing. How do I wire in my dome light?? can i just hook up the white wire from the alarm to the white wire on my dimmer switch???
Posted By: jrilla
Date Posted: March 22, 2003 at 4:16 PM
For the trunk:
Pin 85 goes to the gray wire from the Autopage
Pin 86 goes to 12v+
Pin 30 goes to the BLACK/ White wire
Pin 87 goes to 12v+
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J Rilla
Owner/Installer
Posted By: RaveChild
Date Posted: March 23, 2003 at 6:09 PM
Thanks for the info. Trunk pop works great now. Any ideas on the interior light or the trunk switch??
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