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viper 791xv, can’t even manual start car?

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: April 29, 2024 at 1:05 AM


Topic: viper 791xv, can’t even manual start car?

Posted By: joejoe3
Subject: viper 791xv, can’t even manual start car?
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Hi, I had my viper 791xv installed couple years ago, recently the auto starter stopped working.

So I went over the install manual of the alarm, under troubleshooting it ask me to check the 2x 30A fuse on the red wire. I noticed one of the fuse holder was rotating freely and it was because the legs were broken off inside, so i took it apart and rigged up a connection to a 30A fuse to try it out.

Now, there's no response from the remote to the car, no signal to the brain. I try manually starting the car and the starter won't even engage. My radio doesn't turn on, there's no acc. power either.

I'm really lost and don't know what to do! my car is in the garage now and i can't even drive it!

Please help!



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Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 7:25 AM
Did you possibly arc one of the leads to ground when attempting to repair that fuse holder? Did you check the fuses near the battery? On that vehicle the fuse box is mounted to the drivers fender. If you can't find it there, let us know what kind of vehicle you have and we can probably help you locate the fuse box.




Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 8:30 AM

Thanks, my car is a 2003 Acura RSX TypeS.

It's just werid I can't even start the car, in the meantime if i can't fix it, disconnecting the brain would it help? If so, where do i start? Unplug the harnesses?





Posted By: jseibold
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM
you need to let us know what kind of car you have.  It sounds like you blew an ignition feed fuse in the car itself.....at this point forget about the remote start unit and figure out what factory fuse has blown or you need to check for constant power at your ignition harness.  Depending on the type of vehicle there may be 2 constant power wires and from what you describe one of them is not hot at this time due to a possible blown fuse

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Posted By: TooDark
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 9:17 AM
where you able to find to main fuses for the car, not the RS?




Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 9:44 AM

I havn't been able to find the main fuse yet. Actually i havn't check all the fuses in the car, but i did check the ig. coil fuse and the acc. fuse which was fine. I'm able to turn on my head lights, dome lights, etc. When i turn the key, there's no power to the radio though.

What other factory fuse should i be checking? Also in the instruction manual it ask me to check the 3A fuse (*which i have no clue where this fuse is for the 791xv)





Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 10:09 AM
You should probably check the large fusible links. I would imagine that the main feed to the ignition switch is fused by one of them, and not a mini fuse.

It definitely sounds like you blew that main ignition switch feed, if the radio doesn't work with the key (and presuming the dash lights don't come on in the "run" position and the car doesn't crank when the key is turned all the way.)

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Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Yea no dash light, radio when i turn the key

if i blew the main ignition switch feed, it's just a fuse right? Any idea where I can find this fuse on my car? (03 acura rsx-s)

Thanks!





Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 10:48 AM

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Would it be fuse #20 i'm looking at [ Ignition switch (BAT) ]?





Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM
it could be but your best bet is just to check all of them. more than likely it will be a bigger fuse, but it more advanced cars it could be any little fuse that makes the car not start. fuses that you wouldn't think would make that car not start so just check as many as you can find. also dont just look at the fuse because it might be hard to tell just by looking at it, you should test each one with a multimeter with continuity. hope that helps

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Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Aside from the fuse, is there anything else i should also check.

So i can basiclly narrow it down to the starter/ignition fuse problem?





Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM
you can test the ignition wires just to make sure they dont have power. if you test them and they DO have power but still nothing works then you probably have a much bigger problem

check the plug for the ignition harness, if it is loose it could be causing your problems. also just inspect the wires themselves to make sure there are no cuts or rips in the jacket and that everything is neat and not wrapped around anything. keep your eyes open for electric arc marks and other loose wires or plugs

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Posted By: big sexy lac
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Same problem differnt car it was a 15amp fuse under the hood found it by TESTING each fuse with a meter.

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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM
ouy probably blew the MAIN fuse that is rated at 80 - 120 amps from the battery to the fusebox. Trace from the battery to fusebox. inline thr will be a little bo x with a big huge fuse inside. most likely this got burn out like chris mentioned if you arced it to ground.




Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 22, 2008 at 10:55 PM

You guys are absolutely correct! my 50 Amp fuse was blown... i guess i'll first re-do my alarm's fuse, and then put a new main fuse back to the car's fusebox and hope i can fix my auto starter all together!

i'll keep you guys updated





Posted By: joejoe3
Date Posted: December 25, 2008 at 8:08 PM

thanks guys, i redid the wiring for the starter, and replace the fuse... now the auto starter finally works again!






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