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omega db gmdlbp, dead battery

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=110341
Printed Date: August 18, 2022 at 5:00 AM


Topic: omega db gmdlbp, dead battery

Posted By: roooler
Subject: omega db gmdlbp, dead battery
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Hello everyone well real quick.. for Christmas i put a Crime stopper RS-1304 in my fathers 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 (4) door.. i used Omegas DB-GMDLBP for the Bypass. however i could not figure out were to hook the BROWN wire coming off of it.. It says it needs a (-) connection so i grounded it out. well the truck remote started, key less entry everything just great, until the next morning it had a dead battery.. we jumped the truck and everything still worked great until once again a dead battery the next morning..

So i finally unhooked the brown wire, the truck will not remote start now but it will still key less entry.. and ever since i unhooked the brown wire it has NOT had a dead battery?

If anyone could help me out i would greatly appreciate it!!

Thanks

Karston Davis
RoOoLeR@gmail.com



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Posted By: JWorm
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Connect the brown wire to a wire labeled as (-) ignition output, 3rd (-) ignition output, status output, or ground when running output on the Crimestopper. Different manufacturers call it different things.




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 6:20 PM
On my crimestopper there is a ORANGE / Black wire labeled as
(-)Ignition/Anti Grind.. i was told by the manufactures of the Crime stopper to clip this wire off and not use it cause the DBGM will take care of it? i tried connecting the Brown wire to it anyways and it didn't work?




Posted By: brhaugen
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 6:38 PM
You need a ground(-) output from the RS that is only active while the RS is activated.


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Brent Haugen
Fargo, ND




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 6:40 PM
yes i understand that i guess my question is.. what would be the best wire to connect it to? or how should i go about this? On my truck i just connected the brown wire to the ORANGE / black wire and it worked but i also used a 555L Bypass instead of the DBGM




Posted By: brhaugen
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Your orange and black wire should work.
Hopefully you didn't cut it to short.
If you did you may be able to get the pin out of the connector.
There is usually a little metal tab that holds it in.
If you depress it and pull just right you should be able to get it out.
Solder a new wire to the tail and re-insert the pin.
I prune my harnesses also, however I cut them an inch or two long and tape them to the other wires, just in case.


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Brent Haugen
Fargo, ND




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: January 04, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I did leave about 3 inches of wire in case i needed them so even though the BLACK/ Orange wire is Hooked to NOTHING i can still hook the brown wire to it and it should work?




Posted By: todds440
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 6:53 AM
On crimestoppers you need the yellow/black wire coming from the remote starter to the brown wire of the GMDLBP.  This wire from R/S has (-) output the whole time the R/S is active.




Posted By: todds440
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 6:57 AM
The ORANGE / black is a oem disarm wire.




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 8:13 AM
yes your right sorry about that i got my wires mixed up so all i need to do is connect the brown to my Yellow/Black correct?




Posted By: jinstall
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 7:42 PM

hey man. what you've done is hooked up your bypass to constantly activate, so basically you no longer have an immobilizer period. somebody could come and jump your constant to your ignition and crank wires and it'd start.

you want to look for a wire called (-)status, or (-) when running. if your starter system doesn't have a wire labelled that then you'll need to hook it up to a negative trigger. don't use a negative accessory trigger because accessory shuts down during crank. best would be ignition trigger or if you get stuck with a starter trigger that should work too. I'm not terribly familiar with a the crimestoppers, but it has to have a negative output you can use.

the only way a remote starter or alarm will kill a battery is if it's activating something else.





Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: January 05, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Wow thanks for the insight getting my fathers truck stolen would not be very fun..

On the crimestopper RS 1304

it has a wire labeled YELLOW/BLACK (-) Ignition/Or Anti-Grind Feature

Now when i told the factory i would be using the Omega Bypass they said not to worry about hooking this YELLOW/BLACK wire to anything so i snipped it off but left 3 inches in case i needed it..

If i connected the YELLOW/BLACK wire from the CS to the BROWN wire of the Bypass will that work?

Thanks everyone




Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: January 06, 2009 at 2:11 AM
roooler wrote:



If i connected the YELLOW/BLACK wire from the CS to the BROWN wire of the Bypass will that work?

Thanks everyone


Yes




Posted By: roooler
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Sorry that it took so long to get back to everyone..
I did try what i was told to do..

Hook the Brown Wire from the Bypass Module "TO" the BLACK / YELLOW wire off the CrimeStopper..

Sadly when i did this the truck would still not start? i am getting so annoyed of this stupid damn wire.. is there another wire i can try to connect it to? any help is gladly appreciated!!

Thanks everyone






Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Make sure you didn't use the ORANGE / BLACK wire. If not, I would test the YELLOW/BLACK(-IGN:output) wire to see if it's providing a ground during the R/S operation. You should dis-connect the BROWN(GWR:input) wire from the YELLOW/BLACK(-IGN:output) wire, during this diagnostics. It's possible the default programming for the YELLOW/BLACK(-IGN:output) wire has been changed but, I doubt it.

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