factory remote work via 2 relays?
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Topic: factory remote work via 2 relays?
Posted By: robertsc
Subject: factory remote work via 2 relays?
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 7:24 PM
i tried today to make a factory remote work via 2 relays i have done this in other vehicles but i have had 2 vehicles not respond to it a saturn ion and a sunfire why? i can take the wires i solder to the remote and make the remote work every time when i plug it into the remote starter i won't work
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Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 7:32 PM
I thought this was going to be a "Do you know Jack" quiz. Darn! First, what is "it" - "when i plug it into the remote starter i won't work"?
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 7:55 PM
a factory remote controlled by two relays
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Ok. How are you "plugging into" the remote starter?
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:02 PM
it a viper starter so it has a 12 volt output as well as tow negative triggers lock and unlock in a 3 pin plug
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:12 PM
So I take it your using the blue and green to signal the relays and red to power the coils?
Posted By: lostissues
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:15 PM
are you trying to hook up a remote start unit and trying to use the negative lock/unlock outputs to activate relays that you have attached to the factory remote circuit board in order to lock and unlock the doors? If this is the case... why? it would take a lot less time and effort to run the lock and unlock wires off the remote start to the lock and unlock wires in the car. Jonathan
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:18 PM
thats right even if i power the relays with 12 volts and put the triggers to ground it dosn't work i extended the wires so that the remote was a long ways away from the remote still dosn't work but if i short the two wires going to the going to the relay 30 and 87 it works
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:22 PM
robertsc wrote:
thats right even if i power the relays with 12 volts and put the triggers to ground it dosn't work i extended the wires so that the remote was a long ways away from the remote still dosn't work but if i short the two wires going to the going to the relay 30 and 87 it works
Either your not getting 12V+ to the coils or your not getting signals on the blue and green. My guess is the 12V+, but I could be wrong. I'm with lostissues, also. Oops. I read your lasr reply wrong. Here's an example: Power #86 with 12V+(FUSED) and ground #85. That will trip the relay.
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:24 PM
relays are working i has me stumped i tried progamming differnt lock duration times i tried sheilding the relays with tinfoil and a metal can diodes on the relay coil i baffles me why i dosn't work
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Ah.. OK. Seems you have your bases covered. Let me re-read this thread entirely, again. Is it possible that the minute amount of EMF generated on the remote wires, from the coil, are reeking havoc with the remote? If so, you'll need to use a transistorized circuit.
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 8:35 PM
its got to be an rf issue i put the ion i did today back together i just want to try and figure this out so you figure putting a diode on 30 to 87?
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 08, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Maybe. I would recommend using a transistorized relay circuit. You can build it yourself for a few dollars. You should be able to find schematics for a 12V circuit, with some googling. However, we're not really sure that's the issue but, at this juncture everything points to it.
Posted By: CutDog504
Date Posted: January 09, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Why not just use the relays to trigger the white lock/unlock wire in the vehicle???
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 09, 2009 at 11:38 PM
CutDog504 wrote:
Why not just use the relays to trigger the white lock/unlock wire in the vehicle???
He obviously has some mad-scientist scheme, he is concocting. ------------- Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM
in order for me to retain the factory alarm this is for vehicles that the alarm is controlled by factory remote only
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