honda s2000 and pkall
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Topic: honda s2000 and pkall
Posted By: hankooks2k
Subject: honda s2000 and pkall
Date Posted: January 10, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Im currently wiring up a pkall into a 2002 honda s2000. I have the entire alarm wired up, its a 791xv. and I just got the Pkall wired up. I do the programming sequence for the hondas on the pkall and it says it programs the key (the led flashes 10 times), and then i try to remote start it and nothing. The cars dash lights and everything turn on but nothing else, it does not start to crank, now when i put the key into the ignition and then remote start it, it will start.
My wiring on the PKALL is as follows
PURPLE / white + light green are connected to RED / blue (car side data)
ORANGE / brown is connected to RED / blue (key side data)
yellow/black is connected to pink/blue (synchro)
pink is connected to yellow/black (ignition)
blue/white is connected to blue/white ( - status on the alarm)
I can not use D2D because there is no port for it on the 791xv unless im mistaken, so im going w2w.
According to expresskit i do not use ORANGE / green, brown, black, green on the pkall. Has anyone done a remote start on an s2000? It says not to use the green (keysense) wire, do you think its possible i have to?
any help would be appreciated
i have never had this problem with a pkall :(
Replies:
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 10, 2009 at 11:30 PM
that doesnt really make sense... if you remote start with no key in the ignition, it doesnt even crank? but when you got a key in the cylinder and RS, it starts right up? if it was a bypass issue, the car would turn over then stall in a few seconds. On honda's you will usually notice the GREEN keylight if you havent bypassed it properly.
Posted By: hankooks2k
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 1:10 AM
exactly, i have no idea why it wont rs without the key. all the lights turn on like its trying to rs but it wont crank at all. i dont see the green key light either.
sounds like the pkall is just not recognized/memorizing the key?
Posted By: hankooks2k
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 1:17 AM
also, to mention, when im putting the key in, im turning into the on position, if i dont it will not rs. if i stick the key in the cylinder and dont move it to any position it will not start either.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Your last comment makes me think we have an ignition problem here, I don't have enough experience with the car or the module but if it were the by-pass module, it would work with the key anywhere within 4" of the keyhole (without of course having to turn the key on).
Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM
i was going to post that it was a wiring problem but then i reread the first post and seen he said tha it started with the key in the ignition
Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM
hankooks2k wrote:
also, to mention, when im putting the key in, im turning into the on position, if i dont it will not rs. if i stick the key in the cylinder and dont move it to any position it will not start either.
make sure you havent missed a second ignition or accessory and that your starter wire connection is going the right way -------------
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 12:34 PM
My guess. He has the GREEN and PURPLE from the R/S reversed.
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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM
loneranger wrote:
My guess. He has the GREEN and PURPLE from the R/S reversed.
he said its will start if they key is in the on position so that would indicate he has some wires either missed or mixed up
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM
robertsc wrote:
he said its will start if they key is in the on position ...
That would defeat the starter kill, allowing power through the on-board relay. In other words, the key side is being energized, during R/S. I could be wrong but, I would check your GREEN and PURPLE wires from the R/S. ------------- Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.
Posted By: hankooks2k
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Ok so I found out the problem. There is a THIRD ignition that is not listed through directechs. So that's why it wouldn't power up during rs.
Now the previous posts got me thinking about my starter wire. Green is key side correct? If they were reverse then would the starter ben work?
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 11:48 PM
If it's working now, with the undocumented 3rd ignition, then my assumption was completely wrong. Yes. GREEN is the key side. It's odd that an un-energized ignition would cause the vehicle not to crank, on a Honda. ------------- Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.
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