alternating horns wiring for alarm system

When I said REMOTE/ALARM; I mean Remote Start/Alarm

Why is that necessary? the horn output signal from the alarm is (-) 500mA. This wire is hooked up directly to the (-) horn output wire for the truck. It honks the horn "Honk, pause, Honk, pause, Honk, pause". All I want is something that when the negative signal is neutral, I can sent a (-) or (+) signal VIA relay to the Air Horn.

LC

Does the alarm have a siren output along with the horn out wire.  If so this can be done with a couple relays.  Going to give this a shot without having to draw a diagram.

Relay 1  30 to the battery via a 15 amp fuse.  87 to the siren and also to 30 and 86 of relay #2.    Relay #1 continued, 85 to ground.  86 to siren out wire of alarm system.   Wiring for relay #2  30 is already connected,  87A to Compressor.  86 is already connected to power.  85 to negative horn output wire from alarm along with the horn wire of the vehicle.  

Any time the siren is going off and the horn is not, the air horns will be.  If the air horns are not going off, the horn is.

Let me know if you need the picture. 

Yes the alarm has a siren output, but I do not want alternate the siren output. I only want the alternate the horn output. When the alarm is honking the alarm, the horn honks then stops, then honks , then stops. When the Horn is "Not honking" the factory horn, I want it to honk the electric Air horn; so there is a constant honking of horns. What I want is Factory Horn, Air Horn, Factory Horn, Then Air Horn ect.....

Thanks,

LC

lcolson wrote:

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Why is that necessary? the horn output signal from the alarm is (-) 500mA ...

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Well, there is one wire down. Now I will need to know if the alarm has a GWA output?

lcolson wrote:

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... It honks the horn "Honk, pause, Honk, pause, Honk, pause" ...

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I'm sure it does.

lcolson wrote:

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Yes, I thought I already stated that.

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You didn't. Would you like to state it again?

Instead of a pause, I want an alternate horn to honk. Instaed of Honk. pause, honk, pause, I want honk (Factory Horn) , Honk (Air horn) , Honk ( Factory Horn), Honk (Air Horn) ect. During the pause, I want a relay to honk the second horn instaed of a pause.

I dont know how else to make myself clear on this.

Thanks,

LC

lcolson wrote:

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Yes, I thought I already stated that.

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My question was, "Now I will need to know if the alarm has a GWA output?".

i am an idiot wrote:

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The instructions I gave you alternate horn, air horn, horn, air horn.   The siren is constant. 

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Could you post your solution here. I take it you're sending a positive pulse to the air horns, through 2 relays?

i am an idiot wrote:

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Does the alarm have a siren output along with the horn out wire.  If so this can be done with a couple relays.  Going to give this a shot without having to draw a diagram.

Relay 1  30 to the battery via a 15 amp fuse.  87 to the siren and also to 30 and 86 of relay #2.    Relay #1 continued, 85 to ground.  86 to siren out wire of alarm system.   Wiring for relay #2  30 is already connected,  87A to Compressor.  86 is already connected to power.  85 to negative horn output wire from alarm along with the horn wire of the vehicle.  

Any time the siren is going off and the horn is not, the air horns will be.  If the air horns are not going off, the horn is.

Let me know if you need the picture. 

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Bah... I guess I missed all that previously.

I am using how ever many relays you guys suggest. This is what I am asking YOU guys. What relays I need and how to wire them to get the results I am looking for.

I will try the suggestion above and see if it works.

Thanks,

LC

lcolson wrote:

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I keep saying, "The Siren and the Horn are Seperate Circuits." Please forget about the Sirene. It is completely seperate fron the horn circuit I am inquiring about.

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LOL! You won't like the outcome, if we leave the signaling source from the siren out.

Note: To throw a wrench into the mix, I'm sure you want the airhorn to operate when you hit the streeing wheel horn too?

I cant beleive I am having this much trouble convincing everyone to forget about the Siren. My Siren circuit is completely seperate. My Siren circuit is a constant (+3V) output. IT IS IRRELEVANT to my Horn Circuit. My horn circuit is a pulsing (-500mA) output. PLEASE FORGET ABOUT THE SIREN.

My horn output signal is On for a second, then OFF for a second, then ON again etc. This gives the Honk-Pause-Honk-Pause Effect. I dont want a pause. When the signal is off and the horn is in a pause state, I want it to honk another horn. There will now be an alternating horn effect between the factory horn and the electric air horn. I am looking for maybe a DTDP relay wiring diagram that when the factory horn is NOT honking, the Air Horn will be. Man I know this sounds confusing, and I may not be able to do what I am trying to do but I fihfured I would try anyway.

Thanks for your patience,

LC  

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I think that may be what happened to your post.

If you insist on not using the siren wire.  I can not help you.  Without the siren wire powering the second relay, your air horn would go off all of the time.  The second relay will alternate horn, airhorn, horn, airhorn,  just as you want it to do.  The siren will constantly be going off.  You need to not worry about why the siren wire is needed and build the relays to prove to yourself that we are not giving you good information.   Once Again In Goes The Towel.  Print the picture, bring it to someone who has a clue about a relay and see what they tell you.

Dispensing free help has never been so hard.

In your earlier post you wrote

"Man I know this sounds confusing, and I may not be able to do what I am trying to do but I fihfured I would try anyway." 

It is not confusing to me.