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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=11066
Printed Date: May 15, 2024 at 2:28 PM


Topic: sidewinder 6500esp

Posted By: rlowe75
Subject: sidewinder 6500esp
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 9:16 AM

I have a 94 ford explorer. I installed the 6500 on. everything worked fine, until now. When I activate the remote start the unit goes through all the motions except starting the truck. I did the "shotdown diagnostics" and it is giving me code 4. It's saying that it is "Transmitter shutdown (or optional push-button)". I do not have the optional push button. Any suggestions what it might be?

Thanks

Rick Lowe




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Posted By: DeathsJester12V
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 10:26 AM
Check all your connections, including the toggle switch for ground, the hood pin switch, etc. Make sure the grounds are good and clean on bare metal. Also do you have PATS on the Explorer???




Posted By: 10nesne1
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 10:26 AM
Double checked the installation guide, it said that Zone 4 was pin H1/6 "BLUE" wire. Blue wire was multiplexed input for an optional sensor input.   Did you connected any sensor on this wire or crossed any alarm wiring to it?

Good luck.




Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 10:35 AM

Explorer does not have PATS on it. Does not explain why it worked for a day then quit.

The zone four that you are speaking of is for the alarm. Check your manual to see "Shut Down Diagnostics" to see that  four led flashes are for transmitter shutdown/or optional push-button.



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Posted By: DeathsJester12V
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 10:48 AM
Alright bub, checked my 6500ESP install Manual ( would have done it first, but forgot I got a PDF of it on my Puter.) and it's like you said, either the push button or the Transmitter that cancelled it out. One possibility could be a bad battery in the transmitter, or the transmitter itself is bad. However it could also be the brain. These are extremes, and not too likely, but still possible. However, if you don't have the switch installed it is asking for, install it and see if the problem persists. if it does.....timet o bust out the DMM.
1) Check the harnesses and wiring, make sure they are completely plugged into the Brain Module. Make sure all connections to the vehicles wire are good. (soldered, heat-shrinked, taped. )
2) Check voltages and fuses. Uses your meter and test teh red wire in the 5 pin ribbon harness from the remote start relay satellite and the black ground wire. If oyu have less than Batteryvoltage check the 3A and 30A fuses in the relay array.
3) check for voltage on the purple wire of the Remote start relay array 2 seconds after the remote start engages. ( if you have juice. proceed to the next step..if not check all your fuses, connections, and if the gray/black wire is detecting ground. If it is detecting ground the remote start will not crank the engine. )
4)Make sure the Purple wire is connected to the Starter side of the starter kill Relay.
5)Make sure if you have an immoblizer on it. ( PATS for ford ) is is Bypassed, and the bypass is working..to check, but the key in the ignition don't turn it or anything, and engage the remote start...if that's the problem...get a new bypass ( for Ford I like the 555U by DEI, it permantely bypasses PATS..but it works a lot better in my opinion...and gettign replacement keys, jsut dropped to the Home Depot price.)
6) Make sure connections are still good...and if you have more than one 12V Constant in the car...you hooked both REd wires for the remote start to seperate wires...

Try that and let us know what you got...




Posted By: DeathsJester12V
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 10:50 AM
REason I asked if you had pats, is on the Fords, there's a ring that has to be aligned almost perfectly....if you hit a bump, it might have knocked it out of alignment, therefore, causing the vehicle not to see the resistance or whatever, and the car wouldn't start




Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 11:25 AM
thanks for the help guys. i will try all this after lunch and post a reply.,

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Posted By: DeathsJester12V
Date Posted: March 18, 2003 at 2:04 PM
Actually bub....i got to thinking....Channel 3 on the transmitter will cancel the remote start...do you have channel 3 hooked to anything??




Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: March 24, 2003 at 1:36 PM
Ok, sorry it took me awhile. Had to move into new house. I have checked all my connections and I am seeing that everything is in place. I did another  "shutdown diagnostics" and was given 3 flashes. Per the manual the problem is "low or no RPM". What could this be. I am ready to put an Iraqi flag on it and drive it to the nearest army base. Thanks for any help.

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Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: March 25, 2003 at 7:27 AM
any help would be apperciated

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Posted By: DeathsJester12V
Date Posted: March 25, 2003 at 11:12 AM
how do you have the remote start hooked up..meaning..do you have it on Voltage Check, or Engine Check. Engine Check is the Default setting on the Sidewinder 6500 ESP. For that the Tach wire needs to be hooked up...




Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: March 25, 2003 at 1:43 PM
i have the the tach wire hooked up.

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Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: March 25, 2003 at 1:43 PM
it does not explain why it quit working.

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Posted By: DeathsJester12V
Date Posted: March 25, 2003 at 4:53 PM
alright dude....here's what I would do....take it into a shop, and have them switch out the brain module....

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Posted By: x6369x
Date Posted: March 27, 2003 at 8:26 PM
Lemme try and help.

If you're getting the 4 flashes on the shutdown diagnostics, check the BLACK/ white of the 6 pin harness for a propper ground.

If you're getting the 3 flashes on the shutdown diagnostics, check the violet/white of the 6 pin harness. It should go to the tach wire of the vehicle.

Oddly enough, both triggers are in the same harness. I would also check the harness.

My last ditch effort would be to delete all the transmitters using channel 10 of the Transmitter/Receiver Learn Routine. This will set the alarm to default settings. Maybe the alarm just hiccuped???

Otherwise, I'd send in the unit for service.

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Posted By: rlowe75
Date Posted: April 22, 2003 at 8:19 AM

well after getting moved into my new house and learning that I am going to be a new father I decided to take a few minuted to myself and go out in the garage and go over my whole install one more time before blowing the truck up. and low and behold what do my wandering eyes see....a wire that is not suppose to be used being used. I activated the remote start and it actually works now. boy am I an idiot. thanks for all the help.



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