viper 5901, idatalink on intellikey, 09 maxima
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Topic: viper 5901, idatalink on intellikey, 09 maxima
Posted By: vktran226
Subject: viper 5901, idatalink on intellikey, 09 maxima
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I have a 2009 Nissan Maxima and want to get the Viper 5901 installed. I know I will need some sort of bypass module because of the intellikey. After doing some research, I have narrowed it down to the Fortin (CAN-SL2) & IDATA module (can't remember which one). I want to know what the difference between the 2 modules are? I want to be able to remote start the car in the morning, disarm the car, get in the car, then step on the brake and drive off. Some people say you have to restart the car because once you step on the brake, the car will turn off. Is there no way around this. Will i lose a key with any of these modules? Thanks in advance!
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Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 5:39 PM
The only module that forces you to restart the car is the XK07 from Trilogix. And they won't even acknowledge the problem. Avoid the XK07.
The idatalink piece performs takeover for you. Just enter the car, step on the brake, and watch as the ignition magically moves to the "on" position, then drive away.
With the CAN-SL2, you get in the car, and push the dashboard button twice.....once for ACC position, once more for ON, then step on the brake and drive away.
Because of problems (which have now been resolved) with the early idatalink pieces, I have a lot more experience with the CAN-SL2.
I know the CAN-SL2 very well, and it works just fine.
The idatalink piece adds the automated takeover, and it provides an extra output (for the car's negative ignition wire) that the CAN-SL2 doesn't (the installer would usually wire that up with a relay).
You might see several idatalink pieces available for your car. In short: They're all the same to install. The Multi Series can be re-used on other kinds of cars in the future, but costs more. The Solo Series would be limited mostly to be re-used in other Nissans, but costs less. Make your decision based on whether you'll be transferring the product to another car in the future.
Also, on both sites, don't forget to read the installation diagrams.
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 11, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Which specific IDATA module should I purchase if I only plan on installing it in the Maxima. Is it the ADS-DLSL-CA2? The only module they have availiable for the 2009 Nissan's are for the Murano. WIll they work the same? Thank you!
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 12, 2009 at 4:47 AM
vktran226 wrote:
Which specific IDATA module should I purchase if I only plan on installing it in the Maxima. Is it the ADS-DLSL-CA2? The only module they have availiable for the 2009 Nissan's are for the Murano. WIll they work the same? Thank you!
I believe that is correct. Supposedly, there will be a custom cable(modified D2D) available to the U.S. in February, from iDataLink. When the iDataLink module is flashed for DBI mode, it will allow DEI products and iDataLink products to communicate over the 2-way interface digital, negating the need for W2W. However, I'm not sure if TACH is supported over D2D, on the Viper 5901. ------------- Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: January 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM
Ah ok. The Maxima is so new, they may not have it listed on their website yet.
All the push-to-start Nissans are the same, installation-wise. Altima, Murano, FX, G, EX, Maxima. It's only the wiring colors that are different.
You can buy a product for any of the above-mentioned cars, and use it on your Maxima.
Just follow the install guide for, say, an Altima, but you have to go by pin location at the BCM, NOT wiring colors..........the pinouts are the same, just not the colors.
Wire colors for hte Maxima are here, if this helps:
https://www.12voltdata.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=292
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM
I purchased the IDATALINK module for my 2009 Nissan Maxima with the Intellikey. I read somewhere on the IDATALINK website about flashing the module. Do I need to purchase the cable to flash it to the correct software, or do the modules come preflashed? I want to take it to the shop and have it installed tomorrow, but just wanted to make sure before I go. Thanks!
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Indeed, they need to be flashed for the correct software to work. Where did you buy it from? Did they already do this for you?
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM
I bought it directly from IDATALINK. So I need to buy the cable and flash it myself. What kind of cable is it?
Posted By: advanced
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 10:14 AM
ADS-USB available on Idatalink website.
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Good Enough Isn't!
Posted By: way2qk4u2c
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM
is it a special usb cable?
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Yes it is as it has a special plug on the end to connect to the module. Maybe you could find a local dealer that will flash it for you for a few bucks. First i would see if the correct software is already there. Look on the side of the box and it will have software version printed. Compare that to what you need on thier website...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 5:16 PM
On the side of the box it says: P/N: ADS-DLSL CA2 SW: 4.9 HW: AIO (128) Guide 422 Date 1-14-2009 My car is a 2009 Nissan Maxima. I posted a topic a couple of days ago and Chris Luongo said that the firmware is the same for all the Nissan's w/ the intellikey. How do I know this is the right firmware with the information that is printed on the side of the box. I looked on the IDATALINK website and it said nothing about a specific Software version for the car. Thank You!
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Guide 422 is for the 2008 Maxima, which i would presume is the same car. If you go to the Idatalink website and go to support, then install guides, you can check your guide number(as long as nobody changed the software)...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 7:39 AM
The 2009 Nissan Maxima is completely redesigned from the previous years. Does this make a diference? I really don't want to purchase this data cord to flash my module.
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM
You know after i wrote that i realized this is a totally different car. This may be where your problem lies. Idatalink doesn't list the 2009 at all and it may not work. FYI, the 2008 IS250 pushtostart works fine with a Idata unit, but the 2009 does not. In fact, Idata told me Lexus has changed code variables and they are working on a fix. I tell you this because you need to be sure it will work. Have you talked to them at all? Did someone tell you it will work? The Altima has an entirely different wiring scematic(much more complex) yet does work with the same Idata module. You need to call them...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 9:05 AM
There is another person on the Maxima.org forum who had the exact same alarm /remote atart installed with an IDATALINK module. I was just wondering if I will need to flash it, or if the module is preflashed with the correct firmware/sotware. I don't want to give all this to the installer and have him call me back saying that the module does not work. I really appreciate all your help Mike!
Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Just due to the way Nissan usually does things i would say it would work. They tend to keep a standard in wiring thruout different cars. For instance, the BCM in a 2006 Tian is basically the same BCM that is in an Altima, Maxima, Pathfinder, Frontier, etc. The keyless turn to start in a Murano is the same as all the others. Chances are all the Intellikey cars are the same too. Every Nissan uses the same software knowmatter what type of start system the car has. For these reasons i'm thinking it would be fine but a call to Idata wouldn't hurt to be sure...
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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services
Posted By: vktran226
Date Posted: January 20, 2009 at 1:07 PM
I have a 2009 Nissan Maxima with a Viper 5901 installed. Everytime I remote start the car, the alarm siren will go off. I noticed that when I remote start the car, the car will constantly beep like when you put your keys in the car and turn the key to one or two clicks without starting the car. My nissan is equipped with the Intellikey if that helps. I believe the beeping is causing the glass break sensor to react because the installer said he tied the glass break sensor into the trunk switch and when the alarm goes off, it says that my trunk is open. When I lock the car the siren chirps once, and then it chirps a second time telling me that the trunk is open. How do I fix this!
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