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pkucg2x and clifford 3.3.x on 07 cobalt

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=110745
Printed Date: May 17, 2024 at 6:40 PM


Topic: pkucg2x and clifford 3.3.x on 07 cobalt

Posted By: skablamm
Subject: pkucg2x and clifford 3.3.x on 07 cobalt
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM

So I installed this today but had a problem, When attempting to Remote Start dash lights come on and unit trys to remote start but the start never cranks. I repeated the programing for the PKUCG2X a few times. How do you know if the Bypass is bad? or have the right firmware? Can I test this somehow? Any help would be nice! Would I be better off with the XK06 bypass?



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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 6:28 PM

first connect the passlock wires back together

next put a key in the ignition

does it start ?

next if it starts with the key in the ignition try putting the bypass up to the keycylinder and see if it starts





Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 17, 2009 at 11:34 PM
SO what passlock wires? I put the key in the ignition and still no start. the key in the ON position or ACC?




Posted By: dtk1
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 12:36 AM
ok lets see did you set up the resistors and relays ? this car should not be that hard to get it starting as long as acc drops and ing stays on the car will crank how ever you need the MUX wire to have the proper resistors. did you program the unit for tach or voltage sense ? if you still have issues i think it would be better to used PKUGM2X witch does your resistors and immobilizer bypass.




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM

these gm vehicles will start without the mux wires

mux or passlock wires are the white and white /black





Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Ok, yes I don't believe I need the MUX wire. I Have the PKUCH2X not the PKUGM2X....but they are the same thing basically. This car is giving me a headache! so to test with out the bypass (to see if it is bad) the key has be be in the ignition? I didn't add any resistors or relays for the remote start function...? i didn't thing i needed any. So the car needs to see both ign and acc wire with power then the acc drop for it crank? last thing.... I have it set to Tach.




Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 11:40 AM
also... I tagged the ignition at the BCM not the ingniton switch. I Don't thing it really matters right?




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM

that bypass won't do your vehicle

you need a pkugm2x





Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 18, 2009 at 10:30 PM
xpresskit.com says this module has same coverage as PKCH2X and PKUGM2X in one module! so it should work on my cobalt.




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM

i have never tried it seeing that it required resistors and relays to do the job

with the extra time and parts required i never seen the point of using it on a gm





Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM

thats right

it should start without the buypass if you put the key in the ignition





Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 20, 2009 at 10:13 PM
OK so I was trouble shooting this a little today and still not RS with the key in the ign. I put a DMM on the Brown ACC wire and it does not have any power on it at all at any time...... any ideas? I tryed it at the Ign harness and the BCM. And I only get the engine light on the dash when i try to RS and nothing else.




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 7:29 AM

brown is your acc

you have no power using the key or the starter?

if you have no power there the acc output is no good

being a clifford you could use ignition 2 (pink w/white) and program it to acc

do you have all you red wires connected to power there are 4 of them





Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Well the RS does output power on the ACC wire.... but when I turn the the key and start it manually the Brown ACC wire never gets any power... i dont know if i have the wrong one... but it is the only brown in ign harnes.... is there a keysense or thing like that i need to tag? Yes all my power wires are connected. I did notice when I manualy turn the key it there are moving parts around the Steering column...i dont know what that is all about.




Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 7:30 PM
PS: Directtechs wiring says I may need an ACCESSORY DROP OUT Circuit. Any thoughts? or relay diag for this?




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 8:01 PM
so where did you find your wires at the base of the column or the switch?




Posted By: skablamm
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 10:02 PM
at the switch, I also tried the BCM




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM

skablamm wrote:

PS: Directtechs wiring says I may need an ACCESSORY DROP OUT Circuit. Any thoughts? or relay diag for this?

this is just refering to attach a accessory wire

an accessory wire that only has power in ther on position and not the crank





Posted By: james bond 007
Date Posted: January 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM
The PKUCG2X units WILL work  with select GM BUICK CADILLAC CHEV GMC HUMMER PONTIAC SATURN SUZUKI vehicles You will need to recheck your wiring, this is what it should be , black wire from bypass to ground, red to constant 12v and brown will goto the ground out when running from remote starter unit, this unit will only provide the transponder bypass for your vehicle, you will also have to run the transponder loop around  the ign switch and plug it into the bypass unit your resistor code wire is white the voltage reference wire is WHITE/ black and the ign wire is yellow.  The resistor code wire will show 12v for key sense, 5 volt during acc and ign and just under 4v during crank.  You will hook up the ign wire from the clifford to the cobalt ign switch, you will also have to hook up the acc wire to the cobalt, you will need a 9.6Kohm resistor and a 6.3Kohm resistor aswell.   You will need a relay the neg will be hooked you to the ground out from the clifford the (+) hooked up to constant 12v,     87 will not be hooked up, the starter wire from the cliffors will have the 9.6k resistor hooked upto it series ( in line)  and you will need to hook up the 2nd acc wire with the 6.3k resistor in series aswell, both ends of the resistors will be connected together and ran to vehicle side cut wire the other side the ign switch side will go to pin 87A on the relay  do not try to remote start the car with out hooking this relay up or the computer will store fault codes and the dealer will blame your remote starter for every problem that goes wrong, not unless you have a freind that can clear the codes that are stored. 




Posted By: audifive
Date Posted: January 23, 2009 at 7:00 PM

i installed remote starts on this car by wiring up my own resistors and relays, and using a universal immobilizer bypass like the 556u.  that method takes a long time and gets messy.  my fav bypass module is the pkugm2x which im sad to say got discontinued.  it got replaced by the one you are using.  with the pkugm2x  the resistors are built into the unit, and so is the pk3 chip.   for me its worked 100% .  also cuts install time in half






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