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pkh34 failing to keep learned data

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=110850
Printed Date: May 06, 2024 at 1:24 AM


Topic: pkh34 failing to keep learned data

Posted By: xtac1080
Subject: pkh34 failing to keep learned data
Date Posted: January 20, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Installed a viper 5901 in an 06 Acura MDX last week, bypass used was the PKH34. Install went flawlessly (minus the pain in the ass hood & trunk pin wires), and the vehicle remote started with no error's when it left my shop. A week after the install the remote start is still working, but the green key indicator is now flashing on the cluster. The vehicle will just crank and crank but no go. I reprogrammed the PKH34 and it worked fine, for another day. wth gives? Anyone seen this before? Did I hookup a wire wrong? The data provided with the PKH34 was incorrect, but I used Mitchell OnDemand and it gave me the proper wire colors. Any help is much appreciated. Nick



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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 20, 2009 at 9:18 PM

i would say that you probably should have used the instructions provided

fortin and bypass

use the same wire colors for there bypasses

i can't see them both being wrong





Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 9:33 AM

i have a customer with an 06 MDX complaining about the same thing  also used a PKH34... i haven't rebooked her yet but i am planning on swapping the module out for a different brand to see if that corrects the problem....

only wire i found different was the Security LED wire was pink i think......



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM
When you get a chance, xtac1080 and kgerry, see what color the label(red or yellow) is on the module.

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Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 10:24 AM
loneranger wrote:

When you get a chance, xtac1080 and kgerry, see what color the label(red or yellow) is on the module.


The label is red. Does this mean something?




Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM
i've had good luck with the fortin honda sl




Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM

xtac1080 wrote:

loneranger wrote:

When you get a chance, xtac1080 and kgerry, see what color the label(red or yellow) is on the module.


The label is red. Does this mean something?

Possibly. I've used quite a few yellow labels and never had a problem, even in my own vehicle. Of the many red labels I've used for awhile now, I've had to replace a few.

robertsc wrote:

i've had good luck with the fortin honda sl

I've heard so many good things about those but, they don't support D2D.



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Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 2:05 PM
yellow    why?

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 7:54 PM
the fortin honda-sl3 is a very good bypass. it duesnt support d2d, but if you want d2d then go with fortin can-sl2 or the key-override-all.




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: January 21, 2009 at 8:07 PM

All D2D will do is give you a power and ground for the module.  In DEI systems you still have to wire the GWR wire anyway.  So what is the difference for it????? Doesn't matter to me when it comes to a regular bypass.  It would only matter on the CAN-SL2 and DLPK.





Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 2:41 AM
enice] wrote:

All D2D will do is give you a power and ground for the module.  In DEI systems you still have to wire the GWR wire anyway.  So what is the difference for it????? Doesn't matter to me when it comes to a regular bypass.  It would only matter on the CAN-SL2 and DLPK.


You are mis-informed. Only newer modules, that fall under patent license, require GWR through W2W. D2D is a secure link, either way. If a module is programmed for D2D operation, it can not be operated without the encrypted link, regardless of GWR through W2W. Modules that require GWR, when operating in D2D mode, are under license. That is the reason for the GWR through W2W now. The older model modules don't require GWR through W2W when operating in D2D mode., because they don't fall under the patent license



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Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: January 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM
On the PKALL we have to connect the GWR when we use them.  If you are talking about the safety of the "encrypted link" then I understand what you mean but nonetheless in that mode its gonnas give you ground, power, and GWR.  We haven't had the chance to use the D2D config since we used DEI systems that didn't have the port but then again I hear problems from that technology on the newer DEI systems. 





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