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2005 suburban parking lights do not flash

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Topic: 2005 suburban parking lights do not flash

Posted By: advhome01
Subject: 2005 suburban parking lights do not flash
Date Posted: January 27, 2009 at 4:01 PM

OK, Viper 5901 with the white parking light wire ran directly to the brown + parking light wire in the DS kickpanel.

When the alarm goes off the lights don't flash.  The do when disarming, but this is probably from the XK01 connection.

Do I need to connect the negative parking lights wire as well (I don't see why)?  I couldn't find anything by searching the forums, so I am stating to think that it is an issue with the alarm, but there is no way to set the parking lights in there.

Power Unlock see power lock    
Lock Motor gray  5wi driver door module in door
Unlock Motor tan  5wi driver door module in door
Parking Lights+ brown  +  driver kick panel
Parking Lights- gray/black  -  switch or BCM, brown plug, pin B2




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Posted By: BNLUIS
Date Posted: January 27, 2009 at 4:08 PM
did you install the fuse on the 5901 for the parking lights? Also I always use negative grey/black at the switch.

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Sound Waves
Is up to the installer to test all wires with a DMM whenever possible.




Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM
I always use the negative gray/black at the BCM as well.




Posted By: Mike M2
Date Posted: January 27, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I always do negative in these trucks, but reguardless of which you use it isn't going to nake them flash. Most Viper(don't know what a 5901 is) units have a program setting for this, does yours?

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Mike M2
Tech Manager
CS Dealer Services




Posted By: another-kelly
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 12:34 AM
ditto all the above. i always use (-) parking lights in that truck, easy to grab it at the BCM. there's a "door" on the top of the 5901 that you have to open and put the fuse in. it acts as a jumper meaning depending on how you put it in, it will make for a (+0 or (-) output.




Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Thanks guys.  I didn't expect so many resposes so fast.

I have the fuse in there as Positive out.

I'll hook up the negative at the BCM.  I did not see any setting for programming this, so I am going to assume that the problem is from not connecting the Negative output.

I'll post if I find out otherwise.

Thanks!





Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I'm guessing you don't have the proper Parking Lights+(BROWN) wire connected, in the vehicle; an improperly placed and/or blown fuse, in the module. Did you test the vehicle and module wire for operation?

The XK01 does not flash the lights, but if the vehicle has a factory alarm, that may when dis-arming.



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Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Any idea what I need to connect the negative parking lights wire to on the alarm?

I'm on site at the customer's house and seem to have left the install manual back at the house.

The 5901 diagram has the pos parking lights out on it but nothing for negative.

Any help would be appreciated.





Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM

OK, I am now assuming that I spent too much time in my customer's attic this moring and fried my brain.

So, now that I am back to the real world I believe that all of you were telling me to switch the fuse in the 5901 over to a negative headlight flash output and connnect the white wire to the BCM as a negative pulse instead of to the brown parking light wire as a possitive pulse.... not something in addition to it.

Please let me know if I am wrong.. or right now for that matter.

Thanks.





Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 4:01 PM
you got it right now.




Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Good to hear. 

Thanks





Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 7:10 PM

NOOOOOO.   This is crazy.  Only because it is my best customer, and they are driving to Canada tomorrow..... and because I am doing this warranty type work at their house....

I connected the white parking light wire to the grey/blk at the BCM brown connector.

Set the pulse on the 5901 to negative, and now it blows the 10 amp jumper fuse.

Any ideas or am I stuck running over there at 6am to put in a relay to the brown parking light wire with the jumper set to positive??  I hate adding relays when I don't have to.  Too many things to come disconnected.





Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM

if it blew the fuse you have the wrong wire

its in the purple connector on the back of the bcm

rule number one test the wire

if it dosn't do what its suppost to do you have the wrong wire

hopefully you didn't damage there vehicle





Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM

So which wire is it supposed to be if it isn't in the connector that the wire diagram says it is?

I usually test, but I don't like putting things to ground if they match the wiring diagram.





Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: January 29, 2009 at 4:02 AM
advhome01 wrote:

I usually test, but I don't like putting things to ground if they match the wiring diagram.


I'm not sure what this means. At any rate you should be verifying the wires at the BCM regardless of whether they match the diagram or not. Wiring information is not infallible. Put your red meter lead to 12V constant, black to the suspected parking lights (-), and see if it shows 12V with the switch on.

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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: January 29, 2009 at 9:50 AM

are you putting the fuse in the 5901 in the "negative" position??     the new DEI units no longer have jumper for park lights..... the fuse is used to determine + or - output for park lamps....

also verify you are using the gray/black in the brown plug at the BCM.. it should be the ONLY grey/black wire in that harness... verify the wire with a meter and off you go....



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: advhome01
Date Posted: January 29, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Yup.  I must be getting dumber as I get older.

I tested it with a meter, and it was the wrong harness.]

It is now connected to the actual BCM and all is well.

Thanks.






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