02 lincoln ls, viper 5900

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 02 lincoln ls, viper 5900

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Subject: 02 lincoln ls, viper 5900
Date Posted: February 03, 2009 at 4:33 PM

I have a 02 lincoln LS that I am installing a Viper 5900 remote start in. The car comes with power windows that can be controled through the FOB of the factory alarm. I want to know if it is possible to integrate that feature into the 5900 or do I have to use the 530t window module from DEI? Is there a different module that has the same features as the 530t but for 4 windows so I dont need 2 modules? Anyone have the complete wiring info for this car? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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Posted By: xicano21
Date Posted: February 03, 2009 at 5:01 PM

You can do without the window modules, and just go straight from the door lock module in the door extend the pulses

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: February 03, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Thanks for the info. Is there anyone who can explain how to that?

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: February 04, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Anybody?

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 04, 2009 at 3:58 PM

you need to program the unit for the extended door lock pulse, consult your manual, it will show you exactly how to do this.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 04, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Go to theprogramming and set your unit for "comfort or total close" it will mention one or the other.

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: February 16, 2009 at 4:13 PM

I have 2002 lincoln ls I am installing a viper 5900 the car has the window roll down feature biult into the door locks however I want to add a module that I can roll the windows up I want to get one of the modules that will roll all the windows up w one module. Can someone please recommend a good module for that.

Posted By: jseibold
Date Posted: February 16, 2009 at 5:45 PM

I have used a "DEI 529t"...it is a 1 piece module that rolls 2 windows up...I'm not sure there is one module that can do all 4

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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 16, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Doesn't the LS have the ability to roll the windows up and down by simply holding the key in the door cylinder to either lock or unlock? If it does, you do not need a module, just aux outputs (or programming changes to the door lock pulses) to those wires in the door.

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Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: February 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM

yes it does didnt even know it did that till you mentioned it. Appreciate you saving me money thanks. I love you people

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: February 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Would anyone be able to give me advice on how that would wired up I am installing a viper 5900 I've installed them before however never did the window roll roll up feature before. what wires to look for any relays needed, diode isolation etc... Thanks

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 03, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Can someone supply me with the wiring info for remote start in a 2002 lincoln LS the remote start is a viper 5900 I also would like to control the windows rolling up and down using the remote. the windows can be controlled by the door lock cylinder and I would like to utilize that in some way. Any help including any diode isulation would be great. thanks for the help

Posted By: james bond 007
Date Posted: March 03, 2009 at 9:53 PM

12 VOLT CONSTANT	RED (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER	GRAY/BLACK (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
STARTER 2	N/A
IGNITION 1	GREEN/ BLACK (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 2	PINK/WHITE (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
IGNITION 3	N/A
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 1	YELLOW (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER 2	PINK / YELLOW (+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
KEYSENSE	N/A
PARKING LIGHTS ( - )	WHITE/ GREEN (-) See NOTE *1	@ HEADLIGHT SWITCH	25205_LS_LINCOLN LS PARKING LIGHT DIAGRAM.pdf
PARKING LIGHTS ( + )	DO NOT USE!
POWER LOCK	BLACK/ BLUE (TYPE B)	@ DDM Module, See NOTE *2
POWER UNLOCK	BLACK/ WHITE (TYPE B)	@ DDM Module, See NOTE *2
LOCK MOTOR WIRE	YELLOW/BLACK (+)	@ DDM Module, See NOTE *2
DOOR TRIGGER	BLACK/ WHITE (-)	@ UNDER DASH LIGHT
DOMELIGHT SUPERVISION	TURNS ON with UNLOCK
TRUNK RELEASE	WHITE (-), Requires Part #775 Relay	@ TRUNK RELEASE SWITCH
SLIDING POWER DOOR	N/A
HORN	BROWN / RED (-) See NOTE *4	@ FEM Module, See NOTE *3
TACH	BROWN or wire with BROWN STRIPE	@ MAIN HARNESS, PASSENGER FIREWALL
WAIT TO START LIGHT	N/A
BRAKE	ORANGE / YELLOW (+)	@ SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
FACTORY ALARM DISARM	DISARMS WITH UNLOCK
ANTI-THEFT	FORD'S SECURILOCK ANTI-THEFT TRANSPONDER SYSTEM	TRANSPONDER @ IGNITION SWITCH TUMBLER

NOTES

NOTE *1 the Parking Light Circuit will requires extra parts, a Relay part #775 and a (-)Negative thru a 1800 Ohm resistor, to connect, See DIAGRAM.

NOTE *2 the DDM (Drivers Door Module) is located in the Center of the DRIVERS DOOR.

NOTE *3 the FEM (Front Electronic Module) is located in the DRIVERS KICK PANEL,

NOTE *4 the HORN wire can also be found at the Steering Column it is a ORANGE / YELLOW (-)

Haven't done the windows on this car before, maybe someone on here has done them before that could help

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 04, 2009 at 7:46 AM

Thanks for the help, Quick question though what is the type b under power door locks?

Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: March 04, 2009 at 2:51 PM

It's GROUND pulse activation.

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Posted By: xicano21
Date Posted: March 04, 2009 at 10:53 PM

extend the pulse to make the windows go up

Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 07, 2009 at 5:12 PM

I am installing a viper remote start 5900 and I am trying to figure out the best place to hook up the 3 red power wires on the Satelite relay pack. Is it safe to wire them to red wires on the ignition switch? It is going into a 02 linc. LS. Any help would be apprciated

Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: March 07, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Considering that what those wires power, I would imagine so.

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Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 07, 2009 at 6:06 PM

I thought the red wires on the satelite receive power that goes out over the other wires the manual states they r 12v input wires

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 08, 2009 at 1:32 PM

you can connect them to the power wires at the ignition switch, they will work fine, although in my personal experience, when using voltage sense, with the climate controls maxed and all accesories on sometimes you may encounter intermittent shutoffs, so i normally run three 10 gauge wires fused at the battery to supply the relay,of u can just use tach, either or.

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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 08, 2009 at 1:33 PM

and the wires u mentioned are inputs.

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Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 08, 2009 at 2:58 PM

Yes they r the 3 heavy gauge wires(2 red 1 red w white stripe)on the satellite relay for the remote start. manual says they r 12V input for high current outputs n they have a 30a fuse on each wire

Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: March 08, 2009 at 3:10 PM

Maybe I should have stated "what those wires are used to supply". I'm sorry for your mis-understanding. The wires you speak of are the inputs for the on-board relay #87 terminals, of the satellite. They power the same wires that the factory RED or RED / WHITE wires power, at the cylinder.

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Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 08, 2009 at 7:20 PM

02 lincoln ls and Viper 5900 r/s The prob I am having is the door unlock wire at the door module requires 1 pulse to unlock driver door and a sec pulse to unlock all the doors on the same wire. I would like to keep it that way. The alarm has a main unlock wire then a second unlock wire for progressive locks. Can I attach both the main and secondary wire from the alarm to the same wire on the door control module, If so do i need to diode isolate them or use a relay?

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 08, 2009 at 8:11 PM

You need to 5 wire the driver's door unlock wire and use the 1st unlock wire on this relay. Then use the other unlock wire for the other doors.

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Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 09, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Its a single pulse 2 unlock the drivers door then a second pulse on the same wire to unlock the rest of the doors

Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: March 09, 2009 at 6:18 PM

LEOAYERS wrote:

Its a single pulse 2 unlock the drivers door then a second pulse on the same wire to unlock the rest of the doors

You may be correct. However, you should diode isolate all DEI flip-flop outputs and any other outputs connected to the same circuit.

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Posted By: LEOAYERS
Date Posted: March 09, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Sounds good to me can you tell me which way the stripe should go towards the door lock module or the alarm module

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 10, 2009 at 4:09 PM

the striped side should face the alarm.

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