mercury sable 2004 and xpresskit pkall

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Topic: mercury sable 2004 and xpresskit pkall

Posted By: caseyo
Subject: mercury sable 2004 and xpresskit pkall
Date Posted: February 08, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Hello Everyone,

Casey here, I just installed an IC Dynamics Remote starter in a Mercury Sable 2004.

After the install I found that i need the key in the ignition to start the car using the remote starter.

Then doing alittle research i found that i need a bypass module for this year, make and model.

So i went to Bestbuy and bought an Xpresskit PKALL bypass module.

The problem is, the Xpresskit PKALL direction are so hard to follow it is not even funny.

I worked on this Xpresskit PKALL from 7:00 in the morn till now 5:20pm

I called Bestbuy and talked to some install tech and was advised of the correct "or what is beleaved to be correct" color codes for the ignition module but am unable to even power on the unit to program it.

What was done:

1 Installed remote start......Seems to work fine.

2 Tryed to install Bypass module by doing the following:

a. Without D2D install...Cut D2D wire and connect Bl/Wh wire "kit harness" to Battery 12v, then Connect Bk "kit harness" to Ground.

b. Connected TX, RX, Ign., Gnd.

Followed directions listed in the Manual for program and had no luck.

There wasent even a light that would come on, on the module.

Any help or any question leading to help would be wonderful.

P.S. Though I would be able to make a few quick bucks.

Thanks.

Replies:

Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: February 08, 2009 at 6:42 PM

? If I am reading your post correctly you say you are connecting the "BL/WH to +12V". ? Do you mean blue/white? or BLACK/ white? The D2D plug gets cut, the blue in that harness goes to +12V and the black to ground. The blue/white in the other harness gets the connection to the remote starter's ground when running output (GWR). This information is listed on page 2 of the manual.

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Posted By: caseyo
Date Posted: February 09, 2009 at 6:05 PM

So if I'm reading this correctly i need to hook the Blue/white of the D2D plug to the constant Battery 12v and the black to body ground.

Then on the other harness connect the blue/white to the ground output of the remote starter.

Ok i think i understand for the most part...but what does GWR stand for?

Also i am not sure what wire on the Remote starter to hook up for the ground output you described.

The starter that im forced to used is a Valiant rs108-125. I can not find the online Manual anywhere but here is a list of what wires are not in use after normal install.

Red: "manual descrip"
The red wire is used to disarm an existing factory alarm system, allowing the doors to be unlocked prior to remote starting. This is optional, and only used if the vehicle has an existing alarm

Brown:
Do not use this wire unless the vehicle has an existing remote control alarm system with shock sensor. If the vehicle has such an alarm, cut the ground wire on the sensor and connect one side to the remote starter brown wire. connect the other side to the remote starter violet wire.

Orange:
Do not use this wire unless the vechicle has an existing remote control alarm system and you are using the remote starter as an add-on only. In this case connect the orange wire to the alarms auxiliary channel negative output. This will allow you to remote start the vehicle with the alarm systems transmitters. Note remote starter range will be the same as that of the alarm system

Gray:
Do not use this wire unless the vehicle has an existing original equipment GM VATS, Passlock or Passkey system; or Ford PATS system. These systems can be identified by the key having a chip in it, and or red security light in the dash. In this case connet the gray wire to the optional VAST bypass kit or PATS bypass kit. Theses kits are not included.

Violet:
Do not use this wire unless the vehicle has an existing alarm system with a shock sensor. if the vehicle has such an alarm, connect one side to the remote start violet wire. connect the other side to the brown wire.

Hope this helps with any questions.
Thanks in advance.

Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: February 09, 2009 at 8:55 PM

GREY is the GWR(ground while/when running) wire. It's used to activate the bypass. Connect the BLUE/WHITE and GREY together.

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Posted By: caseyo
Date Posted: February 10, 2009 at 5:59 PM

I will try that this weekend and post back...

Thank you guys for the help.
Its hard to find a good Forum these days.

You guys are Worthy of a Beer....
Thanks,
Casey

Posted By: caseyo
Date Posted: February 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Thanks for all the Help Everyone.

I was able to get the Car to remote start like a charm.
Problem is i'm out 80 bucks on the PKALL.

I had to buy a different model and the PKALL was crap.
Bought the module from Bestbuy and could not get it to work even though it was hooked up correctly.

I know that this module can require a flash for some car models but after going to Bestbuy and having a few of the Fellas in the Bay take a look at it.. No one could get it working.
The wiring was correct by all sense but the box itself before or after being flashed for that make and model would not work.... or take a program in program mode.

So i opted for the model with the key in the box. Worked Grate but the Customer was out a key...So i told them i was out 80 bucks and they did not whine.

Once a gain thanks for all of the Help.
You guys rebuild my trust in a Professional form.

Thank you All,
Casey