alarm, keyless, remote start, 01 sunfire

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: alarm, keyless, remote start, 01 sunfire

Posted By: stanzz
Subject: alarm, keyless, remote start, 01 sunfire
Date Posted: February 13, 2009 at 6:54 AM

hello,
i'm attempting an alarm install in my 01 sunfire, any help would be aoppreciated.

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Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: February 13, 2009 at 6:59 AM

does the sunfire have a pos. or neg. trigger for power doors locks?

Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: February 13, 2009 at 7:10 AM

	Power Unlock		WHITE		(-)		EITHER KICK PANEL (PASS SWITCH IS MASTER
	PowerLock		LIGHT BLUE		(-)		EITHER KICK PANEL (PASS SWITCH IS MASTER

Vehicle without factory keyless entry will be REV. I do not know if they mean it will be a positive instead of negative, or if they mean it will be reverse polarity, meaning negative on unlock and positive on lock to lock. And negative on lock and positive on unlock to unlock. Maybe some of our alarm guys can shed a little light on it for you.

Battery	RED	(+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1	PINK	(+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1	YELLOW	(+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
All Door Trigger	GREEN/ BLACK
LF Latch	LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK	(-)	IN HARNESS IN DRIVERS KICKPANEL
RF Latch	LIGHT BLUE	(-)	IN HARNESS IN PASSENGER KICKPANEL
Trunk Trigger	BLACK	(+)	LIGHT IN TRUNK
Parking Lights	BROWN	(+)	AT SWITCH

You must diode isolate the door triggers,

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: February 13, 2009 at 10:52 PM

are the doorlocks electric or pnuematic for an 01 Sunfire?

Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 2:37 AM

We are talking about a Pontiac, right?

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM

yes, an 01 sunfire

Posted By: i am an idiot
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 12:59 PM

If it is a pontiac, I am sure that they are electric.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

ok guys,

one more Q before i start my install, i need to know step by step how do diode isolate my power doorlocks in my 01 Sunfire.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Why? In what context? What R/S unit are you installing? Are you talking about door locks or door contacts. If you aren't sure should you be attempting this?

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM

My crystal ball says it's a Mercedes/Audi/VW Sunfire. Idiot look at this guys next post.

Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: February 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

No need to diode isolate the door lcoks wires. You will need to diode isolate the door trigger wires if your installing a alarm or remote starter on a manula transmission vehicle. Use this diagram:

https://www.the12volt.com/12voltimages/negdoortrigs.gif

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Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: February 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM

what size diodes do i use for door triggers when istalling my alarm? 01 sunfire. thx.

Posted By: ckeeler
Date Posted: February 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM

1 amp diodes are more than fine.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: February 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM

thx.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM

stupid question......i'm doing an alarm install (first timer), and need to know what's the best way to connect my alarm wires. do you just tap in(with a blade)and tape it?

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 6:21 PM

can somebody tell me what to do with the two brown wires? i'm not clear, see attachment. thx.

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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM

hook to parking lights or to indicators

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Posted By: the12volt
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM

stanzz, Help us help you. Read and follow all rules.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: March 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM

thx again.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM

hello all, i'm almost done installing my new car alarm in an 01 Sunfire, however i'm stuck trying to wire to the door locks. i have 6 wires to choose from and not one gives any pos. voltage. any help would be appreciated.

Posted By: ceasar326
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Were are u testing from

*1 if vehicle is WITHOUT Factory Keyless entry it is a TYPE C Door Locking system and MUST be tested from the PASSENGER SWITCH, if vehicle has Factory keyless Entry it is a TYPE A Door Locking System.

have you try that.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM

testing from the new alarm for pos. voltage. my car has factory keyless, but can you give more info. about type A door locking system?

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Look at the diagramme that comes with your alarm, type A is negative. Out of those 6, 2 will not be used, the Normally closed or NC, will go to ground, the NO or normally open pair and 2 the common wires or lock/unlock outputs go to the light blue and white wires that Mr. Idiot showed you in his first post.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 1:18 PM

here's my wiring diagram.....(i need step by step,no lol) you say to ground the Ncs, and then what. thx in advance.

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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Sorry, typo or brain not working, it's exactly as in your diagramme, cut the NCs ground the NOs and the other two go to the light blue and white on the car.

Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 3:23 PM

I checked the schematic on 01 sunfire, If it comes with factory keyless entry then it is a type "A" positive triggered doorlocks.

That means you need to connect the NOs to a fused 12v+ power supply and the white to blue, WHITE/ black to white on the car.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 6:06 PM

well the white &(WHITE/ black) wires already have fuses. does this mean i should still add fuses to the remaining No wires?

Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: April 21, 2009 at 9:16 PM

In that case, connect the white & WHITE/ black to +12v constant. orange to blue (lock) & yellow/black to white (unlock) on the car. No more fuses needed on NOs.

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 22, 2009 at 2:28 AM

Look carefully at the many posts you received on this. One person told you the lock trigger wires were neg, someone else, Moonliter more recently told you they were pos going. I suggest you test for yourself. Shut other doors on vehicle, throw lock catch on open door where you are working, take a DMM set to ohms, ground the black probe and place the other probe on your suspected lock, unlock wires. If this works, then they are neg. If this doesn't work, red probe to 12v+ then black to each. That way you will know whether these triggers are neg or pos. If neg, you ground your NOs. If pos you supply them with 12v+.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM

thx guys, i will let you know how i'm doing.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 24, 2009 at 12:52 PM

alright.... fixed the door locks. it ended up being a pos. door lock system. used my DMM to figure it out. the only thing left unprotected is my trunk, i have to wire up somehow. i think i know what i'm doing, but any advise would be helpful.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM

well, since my alarm install went fairly well, i'm thinking i might want to try the remote starter. i olny have 4 wires left to hook up, 2 wires are easy to find, but i also have this (see attach.).

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there are 4 wires coming from the relay. two (thicker)green ones, a yellow and a white. any help?

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: April 26, 2009 at 3:50 PM

you're connecting this to the main starter wire in the car, find it cut it in half, the side that comes from the ignition switch connect the green to, the side that leads to the engine connect the green+, the white as the diagram states can be tapped to the green or to a true ignition wire, anyone is fine it doesn't matter, the yellow will be your ground when armed input from your respective source whether it be alarm or some other means.

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Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: April 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM

by starter wire you mean ignition wire? located at the ignition (yellow).

Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 26, 2009 at 5:34 PM

The diagramme with that wonderful Chinglish spelling "RALY" shows an ignition cut, not to be done. Yellow to 85, white assuming that's the ignition OUTPUT i.e. 12v+ at ign on cranking goes to 86 with a diode between them, starter from key to 30 and output from 87a AND R/S to starter. T & t, dare one of us mention transponder by-pass and or tach yet? And if the sensing method is either oil pressure or alternator, don't bother.

Posted By: stanzz
Date Posted: May 09, 2009 at 12:34 PM

anyone know the color wire for the ebrake on an 01 sunfire?

Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: May 13, 2009 at 5:33 PM

you know you'll need a bypass module.... right???

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Classic Car Audio
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