viper 5901 won’t remote start.

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Topic: viper 5901 won’t remote start.

Posted By: filmmastermike
Subject: viper 5901 won’t remote start.
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Hey, I just installed the viper 5901 on my 2008 Scion xB. Everything works, the alarm arms and disarms, doors lock and unlock. Kill switch works when alarm is activated. But when I hit the remote start button it seems to want to work, my dash lights up and I hear some clicking, the alarm attempts to start three times but the engine does not turn over. After that I get a "remote start error" on the remote...
Thank you for any help!

-Mike

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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 1:36 PM

whats the error say?

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 2:46 PM

did you use any bypass for the factory security, also on a side note ( not that i think this is the problem but they could arise after you hook your bypass posted_image ) are you using a tach signal or are you gonna use. voltage or virtual tach.

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Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 3:42 PM

It just says "remote start error" and there are no flashes indicating that the was one of the regular errors, ie... Brake, hood , or door sensor.

I do not have a factory alarm but i guess there is a factory security system. If that's the case, then no I did not bypass it. Do I need a relay to do this?
And I am using the tach signal... will that cause a problem?

THANKS!!

Posted By: 97gss
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Try remote starting it with the key in the switch in the off position. If it starts, you will need a bypass module.

Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I put the key in, in the off position and it still will not start posted_image

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 6:22 PM

turn it to the on position and see f it starts, if it does , the you have mixed up your ignition and accesory wires, if all goes well and you've reached this far then you can start looking for bypass units.

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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 6:24 PM

once you've made sure the wires are in their correct places, place the key in the ignition cylinder leave in the off position and try remote starting, if it starts without the key in you need no bypass if it starts with the key in, well you can figure the rest, also have you learned the tach to the unit, if no then please do, or program it to voltage for the time being so you won't get too confused.

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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM

filmmastermike wrote:

It just says "remote start error" and there are no flashes indicating that the was one of the regular errors, ie... Brake, hood , or door sensor.

THANKS!!

if you read your manual you will find out how to find the error

Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Ok, so I have the manual in front of me, it reads;
When the remote start function is activated and the 2-way remote emits an error tone; you have the ability to see what the cause of the no-start situation is by counting the amount of flashes of the parking lights from the vehicle.

5 flashes      Brake wire is active
6 flashes      Hoodpin wire is active
7 flashes      Manual transmission mode is enabled and not initialized
8 flashes      Neutral safety wire has no ground or the neutral safty
switch is off.

I get no flashes... none... posted_image

Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM

There should be another troubleshooting there you cycle the key and press the valet button

its in the install manual .

I don't have one handy but i can check at work tomorrow

Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM

I see, Shutdown Diagnostics,
I'll try that, thanks!

Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 9:28 AM

ok i just checked, there is no factory immobiliser on this car so you have an issue with the tach or the wiring like i mentioned earlier.

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Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 10:52 AM

the shut down diagnostic says that I have "Low or no RPM'
I need to check that tach connection... or should I use virtual tach?

Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Ok, I think I found the problem,

I have two Ignition wires
and two starter wires

Ignition 1 is connected
Ignition 2 is connected
Starter 1 is connected
Starter 2 is NOT connected

The Manual says that the Pink/Black and Pink/White can be programed to be Ignition2, 2nd Accessory or 2nd Starter .....

Posted By: filmmastermike
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 9:18 AM

OK so that is what it was. I need to connect a relay to the second Starter cable.

Thanks for all the help guys! posted_image

Posted By: jrod83
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM

also be sure to program your tach....

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Posted By: souljah972
Date Posted: March 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Im having the same problem in my 2008 Honda Accord I have the 5901 as well using the xk07 for lock,

unlock, trunk pop etc i thought it also handled door triggers., and pkh34 immobilizer, it doesnt attempt to start

at all, It Says REMOTE START ERROR when i try. When i arm it, it arms but says door and hood are open,

thats why im figuring the remote start wont work. But everything is closed. Im getting no flashes from

headlights after I attempt to start it. ???

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