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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 15, 2024 at 2:41 PM


Topic: new remote killed system

Posted By: hotwork
Subject: new remote killed system
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 12:35 AM

I installed my remote start system (FM-870) about three years ago.  It came with two remotes;  one LCD and one OEM.  Everything has worked great up until last week when I bought a replacement LCD remote control.  After programming the new remote with the existing system, NEITHER remote will start the vehicle.  The engine will crank, but it seems as though its not getting fuel and it won't start.  Anyone have any ideas?  It's cold in Ohio.

HotWork@sssnet.com



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Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Vehicle is a '02 GMC Sierra

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Posted By: KPierson
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:21 AM
If you place the key in the ignition cylinder (don't turn it) and try to remote start the car will it start?

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Posted By: robertsc
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 7:17 AM

KPierson wrote:

If you place the key in the ignition cylinder (don't turn it) and try to remote start the car will it start?

there is no transponder in the key so this does not apply

does your theif or secuity light flash when you try and start it





Posted By: soundnsecurity
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM
sounds like you may have accidentally changed some settings when you programed the new remote.

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Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM

soundnsecurity wrote:

sounds like you may have accidentally changed some settings when you programed the new remote.

It definately sounds like that, but to make sure, I have been through every program feature at least 4 times.  Hell, I even switched it over to diesel engines to see if I could get some response, but natta. 

Could the Passlock bypass have been stumbled by the new remote?  The engine still cranks, but it acts like it's not recieving.... something.  I've gone as far as rewiring the whole stinking thing in hopes that there was a coincidental short at the same time that I programmed the remote.  Natta.  (It's like having lost your keys for 2 days and thinking you may have put them in a place you haven't been in 3 months.)



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Posted By: chadwa2003
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Passlock shouldn't perform like that it will allow the vehicle to start but shut down within a few seconds as it cuts fuel.

It sounds like one of the ignitions isn't being energized




Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:30 PM
robertsc wrote:

[does your theif or secuity light flash when you try and start it


NO.  Just the battery light.  But... When I remote start it, it stalls out.  If I try a restart with the key (without hitting the safety shutdown (i.e. brake), the engine will NOT start.  It has the same symptoms... engine cranks, will not start.   If I try a restart AFTER I hit the brake, the truck fires up like a champ.  It appears that its in the RS system.  Wouldn't you agree? 

As far as programming the remote to the RS system... I followed it word for word.  In fact, on the FM-870, you can program the: 1. transmitter (remote), 2. Alarm features, and 3. Remote start features.  Programming the transmitter is the only one that has you keep your ignition key 'on' to program.  The RS accepted the remote.  The locks work, and the engine cranks.  To change any other features, you need a combination of the key, the valet switch, and the remote.  After programming the remote, the next thing I did was try it... Natta.



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Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM

chadwa2003 wrote:


It sounds like one of the ignitions isn't being energized

What do you mean



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Posted By: chadwa2003
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM
When you confirmed all your wiring what ignitions are hooked up and are you getting a 12v output on the outputs on the remote starter? Also are both 12v fuses at the remote starter still good remotes will still program as long as one of the 12v wires are good




Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:36 PM

chadwa2003 wrote:

It sounds like one of the ignitions isn't being energized

Ahh.. I got ya..  I was thinking deeper.



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Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM

chadwa2003 wrote:

are you getting a 12v output on the outputs on the remote starter?

The fuses are good, but I'll jump on my meter tonight.  (Crossing my fingers..)



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Posted By: hotwork
Date Posted: February 27, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Thanks Chad.. I got it.  The Passlock was stumbled.  I reprogrammed the passlock with the key in the ignition and the system works like a champ.  Figures that this morning was nice enough that I didn't have to warm the truck up.

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