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window roll up w/warn away, aux channel

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Topic: window roll up w/warn away, aux channel

Posted By: talarchevy
Subject: window roll up w/warn away, aux channel
Date Posted: March 09, 2009 at 7:27 PM

First the nitty gritty. 2004 chevy silverado crew cab. Python 990 with 530t module.              Ok everything is installed and in good working order (minus needed530t mod) ihave the orn when armed hook up to the 530t. Windows roll up when armed but I like options. I would like to have windows roll up when the warn away sensor is triggered, even if its a short roll up. Where would I put the diode? between the green and orn or blue and orn. (Green blue wires from shock sensor)   it would be great to catch the guy or gal trying to grab stuff from my truck. Plus I would like use one of my many aux channels to provide a gnd to roll up the windows also. Would I need a diode for this ? Is shock sensor gnd ma output strong enough? Thanks in advance for any help.


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Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: March 10, 2009 at 5:42 AM
Aux channel roll-up is rather easy. You could get away with just one diode to isolate the aux from the GWA.

Warn-away is somewhat more difficult. First, I'm not sure that a shock sensor will its ground output when the alarm isn't armed, which is obviously the only time you'd want it to roll the windows up automatically like this. Second, a would-be thief could easily stop the roll-up by pushing down on the window(the 530T halts as soon as it sees resistance).

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Posted By: talarchevy
Date Posted: March 11, 2009 at 9:16 PM
ok i've been messing with some diodes on gwa and my spare aux channel output and get no results. hooking up the 530t seperately on aux channel or gwa works just fine. they wont work together. i guess i cant roll up the windows when system is armed.

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Posted By: bmfsiii
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Use a relay to interrupt the gwa wire.  It will then roll your windows up.  Use pins 85 86 87a and 30 off the relay and it will work just fine.




Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Aren't the windows rolling up automatically when the alarm is armed?

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Posted By: talarchevy
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 9:06 PM
my windows will roll up when system is armed about 80 % of the time. if i quickly un arm and then re arm i dont think the gwa breaks long enough for the 530t to recoginze it.

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Posted By: talarchevy
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 9:18 PM
i'll give this a try, just need to freshen up on my relay diagrams. what gets me are the 530t installation manual states orn wire to be hooked up to gwa and can be hooked up to aux channel for window roll up.   it does not say any diode/ relay confrig might be needed.

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Posted By: Kevinfwb
Date Posted: March 15, 2009 at 12:36 AM
bmfsiii wrote:

Use a relay to interrupt the gwa wire.  It will then roll your windows up.  Use pins 85 86 87a and 30 off the relay and it will work just fine.


Can you elaborate on this a little? Here is my understanding, please let me know if I'm incorrect. Connect an aux channel on the alarm to a relay that interrupts the orange GWA wire. When the relay is de-activated, the GWA will re-trigger the 530T. Is that correct? What is the need for a diode and how long does the GWA wire need to be off of the 530T before it will activate it again? Thanks




Posted By: Thack79
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 7:53 AM

You could use a 528T (timer relay) because all it needs is a change in state pulse (ground sent from the shock sensor) to trigger the relay long enough to close the window.





Posted By: bmfsiii
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Kevinfwb wrote:

bmfsiii wrote:

Use a relay to interrupt the gwa wire.  It will then roll your windows up.  Use pins 85 86 87a and 30 off the relay and it will work just fine.


Can you elaborate on this a little? Here is my understanding, please let me know if I'm incorrect. Connect an aux channel on the alarm to a relay that interrupts the orange GWA wire. When the relay is de-activated, the GWA will re-trigger the 530T. Is that correct? What is the need for a diode and how long does the GWA wire need to be off of the 530T before it will activate it again? Thanks

Yes,  by connecting the aux wire to a relay, you can use it to roll the windows up while the system is armed.  It only needs to break the circuit temporairly(sp) for it to work. The only reason you would need to use diodes, would  be if something is already connected the gwa wire.  You would then need two of them to isolate them from each other.





Posted By: Kevinfwb
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Thanks, I'll give it a try. In essence the aux isn't providing the ground signal to the 530T, it's breaking the signal to the 530T from the GWA wire. Thanks.




Posted By: Kevinfwb
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I am trying to accomplish the same thing as the original poster and here is what I have so far.

I've connected a relay to the GWA wire going to the 530T. I also connected a pulse aux channel to the relay that causes a brief interrupt to the GWA and causes the windows to roll up. All is well with that. I want to have the warn-away on the 508D proximity sensor also trigger a window roll-up. I spliced the green wire from the 508D to the same relay as the aux channel. This kind of works. The 508D does trigger the relay and starts the windows to roll up, but the movement of the windows trips the 508D and causes the relay to cycle. This results in the windows pausing while in transit because the 508D interrupts the GWA wire a 2nd time. I think I have a solution, can someone chime in and let me know if one is preferred over the other.   Method 1: Splice the activation during output wire from the 530T to it's own trigger wire. The 530T would basically trigger itself once the windows were in motion. Method 2: Connect the activation during output wire to a relay that interrupts the signal from the proximity sensor. I think both would work but connecting the activation during output wire to the 530T trigger would be easiest for me. Thanks -Kevin





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