2005 mustang remote start
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 08, 2024 at 2:06 PM
Topic: 2005 mustang remote start
Posted By: Teamrf
Subject: 2005 mustang remote start
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM
I'm working on a Remote Start in a 05 Mustang using the Xpresskit PKALL. Right now the vehicle will start and die with the KEY IN the start position of the ignition barrel. When I tried to program the bypass it wouldn't even light up. This is what I have coming from the bypass:
Yellow/Blk - Pin 3
PURPLE / Wht - Pin 4
And Pink going to the ignition in the steering column.
Then coming out the first plug I have the black wire grounded and the blue going to 12volts. This is my first time using this bypass so I'm a little confused on it. The alarm/remote start is a prestige (Audiovox)alarm.
Also, on the door trigger can I use the dome light? Any diodes? Thanks.
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Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Don't know about the by-pass, if the Mustang Gem box works like UK Fords you HAVE to go to the door pins , diode block then diode join as per DEI 1076. On Euro Fords when you lock with an aftermarket alarm the dome light still stays on for about 45 secs, you must go to the door pins.
Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Make sure the blue/white wire off the bypass goes to your ground while running wire. You didn't list that as a wire you hooked up. Did you even program the bypass? There is a programming procedure on page 12. You need two valid ignition keys.
Also, when was the bypass purchased? There was an update released lately and instead of using blue for 12 volts, you use red. In the box there will be a slip of paper stating if that particular bypass was updated.
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Big Al
Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM
The blue/white wire is going to the ground when running wire. I haven't been able to program the bypass. I have not been able to figure that out.. It was purchased about two or three weeks ago. I didn't see a paper about it being updated...then again it could have been one in there.
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~The Rookie~
Rookie of the year that is...
Don't let the smoke out of your equiptment..it doesn't go back in.
Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: March 12, 2009 at 8:28 PM
I'm gonna try to do this from memory...
Hold down program button while inserting 4 pin plug, then 6 pin plug. Release program button and LED will turn on. Insert 1st key in ignition and turn ignition on until security light goes out, remove key and WITHIN 5 SECONDS insert 2nd key and turn ignition on until security light goes out, remove 2nd key and remote start vehicle. If the LED on the bypass flashes 10 times it programmed, if not do it again.
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Big Al
Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Is there a reason why the unit is not blinking at all? Do I need to put 12 volts on the blue and red wire from the bypass unit?
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Rookie of the year that is...
Don't let the smoke out of your equiptment..it doesn't go back in.
Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: March 16, 2009 at 8:02 PM
In the four pin plug, you will need to power up the red wire, and ground the black wire.
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Posted By: flybyu
Date Posted: March 22, 2009 at 4:40 AM
i beleive that is for the tbx key bypass. i wired it up that way. and it would start it only unless i had the key in the switch. And it wouldn't go in to programming unless that blue wire gets 12 volts. Please mikvot explain more. I've been struggling this now for awhile. i go into programing and soon as i start putting the second into it the starts flashing and i can't get the key in there fast enough. i have never in my life had this this much trouble with a bypass. this is on a 2001 ford sport trac.
Posted By: davlop
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I think you have the PKALL wired up wrong.. The Blue with the white is (-) while running status. Which means needs to get a ground pluse from the alarm while remote start is activated. Usually different colors dependening on the remote start alarm (mostley blue/white) There is a four pin plug by your steering cloumn close to the key. Look in your installation book and check out the connection 5! wire up as shown. Make sure you cut off the connect with the four wires and use the blue wire for 12v (+) and the black for gound (-) Don't use the other 2 wires. If you need the install book here you go. Hope this helps!!
Posted By: davlop
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Posted By: Teamrf
Date Posted: April 22, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Ok now this is ridiculous. On the four pin I have it hooked up correctly and this is what the car is doing. When I try to R/S the vehicle, the "theft/key" light flashes and the radio powers on but the starter doesn't even try to start. When I put the key in the "on" position, the car will start and die after a few seconds. On the alarm I am using the Tachless mode, but maybe I should find the tach wire. My guess is that the remote start is missing something which is not allowing me to program the PKALL. I thought everything was all ready to go. I also need the factory disarm wire and the door trigger wires. Any idea on those? ------------- ~The Rookie~
Rookie of the year that is...
Don't let the smoke out of your equiptment..it doesn't go back in.
Posted By: v5901user
Date Posted: April 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM
I just installed the PKALL in a 2008 mustang with a Viper 5901. I used to D2D cable to connect the PKALL Connector 1 to the Viper 5901. I had problems with two things and I thought I would post them here so someone may benefit. Before I corrected these two issues, the PKALL LED would come on and stay on solid while I went through the steps to cycle the keys in the ignition to program it. I later found these were my two problems: 1) I was not sure which pin of the 4 pin plug was the 12 volts. The PKALL vehicle guide for the 05-09 mustangs says pin 1 is 12 V when the ignition is on (with key). So I tapped into the far right connector with the volt meter and turned the key and and got 14V, so I assumed that was pin one. Well I determined later that this was actually the Rx wire (which must carry a +14V with the key on). Pin 1 has right at 12 V only -- not 14V. 2) Second problem was the ground when running wire. On the PKALL vehicle guide it shows this wire going the keyless entry fob. I now understand that the fob represents the Viper 5901 unit. I wired the Auxillary output 2 wire to the blue/white wire on connector 2 of the PKALL and then configured the Viper to make this a remote start output "latching". After these two changes the instructions for programming in the PKAll vehicle guide worked fine. I will say that the PKALL vehicle guide leaves a lot to be desired. On the top left is says a constant LED means its already programmed and flashing means its not programmed, but in the programming instructions it mentions that if the light is flashing its already programmed and can't be reprogrammed. From my experience, Solid LED means its not programmed and Flashing LED means it is programmed.
Posted By: blanx218
Date Posted: April 11, 2010 at 11:35 PM
If using w2w on the PKALL and you have a green wire in the power harness then red to +12v black to ground. if you dont have a green then blue +12v black ground
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