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Viper 5901, Unable to Adjust Shock Sensor

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Printed Date: May 09, 2024 at 4:42 AM


Topic: Viper 5901, Unable to Adjust Shock Sensor

Posted By: pyrofallout
Subject: Viper 5901, Unable to Adjust Shock Sensor
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 9:12 AM

I have a 5901 with a Responder LC remote. I am unable to adjust my shock sensor for whatever reason. I have tried several ways and can not get the remote to enter sensor adjustment. When i hit f in the menu to enter sensor adjustment it does the error tone (beep beep baaaah) I have tried with it armed/unarmed locked/unlocked door open/door closed and cannot get it to enter adjustment mode. My sensor is not near sensitive enough and needs to be adjusted big time. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thank you!



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Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 9:27 AM
have you tried tweeking the adjustment vr right on the shock sensor itself??

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Sounds like you will have to use a bitwriter to adjust that.

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Big Al




Posted By: pyrofallout
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM
The shock sensor on the 5901 is built into the brain. i am pretty sure there is not adjustment on the brain either. it is supposed to be done via the responder LC remote




Posted By: pyrofallout
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Page 35 in the owner's manual shows that it can be adjusted from the remote. It is the second menu down after holding the f button for 10 secs. I can get to it, I just can't get in it for some reason.




Posted By: pyrofallout
Date Posted: March 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
after further jacking around with it, I got it working. Another one of those things Directed doesn't put in the manuals or tell you, go figure.

The vehicle has to be unarmed and unlocked. If you have priority locks both locks have to be unlocked. So press Unlock twice. Then when you go to access the Sensor Adjust menu you cannot just press f like you do for other menu's to enter the menu. You must hold it down for several seconds. A short siren will sound and you will be able to select sensitivity level between 00-15. Once you have selected the sensitivity level you want, press f to confirm it and then go down to Exit and press f. Upon exiting you will hear another short siren. Done!

Thanks for the input guys. Mods feel free to close/lock thread as you deem necessary.

Thanks again!!




Posted By: thegreat22
Date Posted: September 08, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Is it the higher the number the higher the sensitivity

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(The Great)




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 12:15 AM

Im unsure if the higher the number the higher the level of sensitivity. I have it on 15 now and the sensor just sucks appearently. I need to get a external shock sensor. I wonder if proximity sensors work well through tint. I have 5% on the back and 25 on the front?





Posted By: pyrofallout
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 6:35 AM
I have been told by many to just stay away from prox sensors. They are bad news and false all the time.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 7:54 AM
Actually, prox are the best sensors if one goes to the trouble of setting them up correctly, then adjusting them if needed after a week, then doing what I did on an old alarm, putting a switch and diode on the outer (warning) cable. Great to set up so that anyone walking by doesn't affect it, but if they loiter it trips, except someone drives closely by in say a Chevy van or similar and the alarm will trigger off!  Also over here with our Cat 1 alarms, for the bitwriter to work, not only does the alarm need to be turned off, which should be obvious, but the ignition has to be turned on!  Also where it says to open doors when manually programming Vipers/Hornets/Avital/some Cliffords, when you have a positive door trigger feed, such as E48 BMWs, you also need to ground the green wire from the alarm/RS.




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Ok so do you guys know if 00 is the most sensitive or is 15?




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Because this shock sensor sucks... They should of made the shock sensor external




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM
15 but try it on 5 first, usually with these things the rule is bare minimum then bring it up slightly.




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 6:35 PM
I can't tell a diffrence from default 7 to 15. If anything it got less sensitive




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: November 23, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Shock sensor sensitivity depends highly on where it's mounted, which is one of the reasons I prefer external ones to the internal ones, simply because where you situate your control module may not always be an apppropriate place for a shock sensor! You may have to try manouvering your brain around a little to attain the desired results from the sensor!




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM

whats the best shock sensor to plug directly into the viper 5901 that is completely plug in and mount and thats it. This buiilt in shock sensor blows.





Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: November 25, 2009 at 1:12 PM

i have installed dozens and dozens of 5901's and have never had any issues with their shock sensors..... try remounting the brain to a wire loom under the dash....



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: November 25, 2009 at 3:51 PM
t&t tech wrote:

Shock sensor sensitivity depends highly on where it's mounted, which is one of the reasons I prefer external ones to the internal ones, simply because where you situate your control module may not always be an apppropriate place for a shock sensor! You may have to try manouvering your brain around a little to attain the desired results from the sensor!




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM
What shock sensor plugs directly in and mounts, I'm not gonna move my brain again.. Does the 504d plug directly in?




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: November 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM
yes

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: chevysittinon26
Date Posted: November 26, 2009 at 2:32 PM

thanks





Posted By: wazabii
Date Posted: May 25, 2010 at 12:37 AM
Hi Howie,

How did you go about setting up a time delay for the prox alarm?




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: May 25, 2010 at 12:53 AM
Read it again, all I did was run a switch to permanently shut down the outer zone. The 508d has an initial 4 sec delay.




Posted By: wazabii
Date Posted: May 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM
I see what you mean. I understood it differently. It would be nice to delay the warn trigger for 4 secs before it triggers a warn chirp. Does the 4 sec delay only happen when you initially arm it?





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