viper 791vx, 2000 chevy silverado
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 17, 2024 at 6:39 PM
Topic: viper 791vx, 2000 chevy silverado
Posted By: 2kz71
Subject: viper 791vx, 2000 chevy silverado
Date Posted: March 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Okay i just recently bought a Viper 791VX with remote start...i have done a few allarms before but never a remote start system. This is all going into a 2000 Chevy Silverado
Now for the questions....
I've read a few things on the factory GM passlock system and how you have to bypass it. I know there's a kit from DEI you can purchase to bypass it but i was wondering if there's any other way around that?
The allarm system also came with (2) window control modules. I want to be able to roll my windows down before i get into my truck (i live in california) during summer, and roll them up when i leave the truck...
On the unit itself it has these wires:
Pink-to accessory item
Green-Left motor
White-Left switch
Orange-500ma Activaticn
Black-Ground
Red-Constant
Blue-Right motor
Brown-Righ switch
It says to cut the wire for the right motor and switch, do i need to do this for both the right and left windows? What do i hook up the pink and orange wires to? I'm sure the orange probably needs to be hooked up to an accessory output off the brain of the allarm...or no?
I know there's more questions but i'll start with these....thanks in advance!
Replies:
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 5:27 PM
yes you need to cut the wires for both windows, the pink wire is unused, the orange wire you hook to the RED / white wire from the 791xv primary harness. and there is another way around the passlock, but it will permanently defeat the passlock system.
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Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 7:51 PM
t&t tech wrote:
yes you need to cut the wires for both windows, the pink wire is unused, the orange wire you hook to the RED / white wire from the 791xv primary harness. and there is another way around the passlock, but it will permanently defeat the passlock system.
what would be the point of keeping the passlock system?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 9:34 PM
it's there to prevent thieves from stealin ur car, if this isn't an issue well, then there is no point to keeping it.
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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
PSALMS 37:5
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 11:10 PM
t&t tech wrote:
it's there to prevent thieves from stealin ur car, if this isn't an issue well, then there is no point to keeping it.
......wouldn't installing an allarm be the same thing? i saw a few how-to's on using a number of relays to bypass it instead of getting the bypass module (5 bucks per relay or 50+ for the module....i'm broke btw) ...is that the easiest way or is there a way to just chop the whole thing out?
Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: March 19, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Bypassing a factory immobilizer is a little more difficult than hot-wiring the starter wire to start the vehicle if you are a garden-variety thief. You also have to remember that the Passlock information gets sent to critical components in the vehicle and when you start messing with, such as trying to permanently bypass it, you are asking for a bunch of problems. Save yourself some headache and purchase a $50 bypass and be done with it. You may want it cheap but you get what you pay for. Just some professional advise-it's your truck.
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Big Al
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: March 20, 2009 at 2:03 AM
ajstetler wrote:
Bypassing a factory immobilizer is a little more difficult than hot-wiring the starter wire to start the vehicle if you are a garden-variety thief. You also have to remember that the Passlock information gets sent to critical components in the vehicle and when you start messing with, such as trying to permanently bypass it, you are asking for a bunch of problems. Save yourself some headache and purchase a $50 bypass and be done with it. You may want it cheap but you get what you pay for. Just some professional advise-it's your truck.
did you just call me a thief?
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: March 20, 2009 at 6:17 AM
ok let me break it down for you, the bypass would allow only allow you to remotely start the vehicle, and still prevent a hotwiring attempt, wheras permanently bypassing the passlock would allow remote starting and hotwiring to succesfully start the vehicle, making it easy prey for thieves, but as i said earlier, if the vehicle being stolen is not an issue then you can go ahead and do the permanent bypass, ths would be the relay, resistor method.
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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
PSALMS 37:5
Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: March 20, 2009 at 9:13 AM
did you just call me a thief? [/QUOTE]
What?? You completely took what I said out of context. Read it again and maybe understand what I am trying to say. I am referring to someone who would attempt to steal a vehicle. It would be more difficult to hot-wire a vehicle with a factory immobilizer like Passlock, than having nothing at all. CHILL OUT. ------------- Big Al
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: March 20, 2009 at 8:01 PM
t&t tech wrote:
ok let me break it down for you, the bypass would allow only allow you to remotely start the vehicle, and still prevent a hotwiring attempt, wheras permanently bypassing the passlock would allow remote starting and hotwiring to succesfully start the vehicle, making it easy prey for thieves, but as i said earlier, if the vehicle being stolen is not an issue then you can go ahead and do the permanent bypass, ths would be the relay, resistor method.
got it...until this point i was under the impression that the passlock system was basically just a factory allarm system...thanks for clearing that up for me.
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: March 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM
ajstetler wrote:
did you just call me a thief?
What?? You completely took what I said out of context. Read it again and maybe understand what I am trying to say. I am referring to someone who would attempt to steal a vehicle. It would be more difficult to hot-wire a vehicle with a factory immobilizer like Passlock, than having nothing at all. CHILL OUT.[/QUOTE] it was a joke, i should have made that a little more clear
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: March 20, 2009 at 8:03 PM
thanks for all the help guys. i found the passlock bypass system from DEI for about 10 bucks and it should be here on wednesday.
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Okay installed a viper 791xv with remote start yesterday. Came with a new unprogrammed remote. Went to program the remote and nothing happens...so in order of events
door open
key to "on" position
press valet once for channel 1
press valet a second time, and hold down
led light flashes once and horn honks once
press button on remote to program and it gives 3 beeps (like it does when you're too far away from the vehicle and you try to unlock it)
then when i turn the truck all the way off it gives off one long honk
try to test it and nothing happens....
what is going on? someone please help me.....thanks in advance
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 6:26 AM
Possible causes: - Defective remote
- Defective antenna
- Defective module
You could try to delete all the remotes. However, that may not program either. Are you holding the valet button, while you are using the remote? Where did you purchase the unit? ------------- Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
Moral - Never dismiss the obvious.
Posted By: 2kz71
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 9:30 PM
i thought it could possibly be the module as well but if the module was bad the led wouldn't flash would it? yes i am holding the valet button while using the remote and the light flashes depending on the channel i'm trying to program and the horn honks depending on what channel i'm trying to program as well which again makes me think it's not the module.......
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