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Topic: zenesis alarm/remote starter

Posted By: howie ll
Subject: zenesis alarm/remote starter
Date Posted: March 22, 2009 at 6:04 AM

Has any one come across or installed this product?  They seem to be tied in with Fortin so one would assume reasonable or better quality. Please let me know. regards, Howard.



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Posted By: chadwa2003
Date Posted: March 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM
I have seen these before havent installed but they look similar to magicar systems and a few other off shore brands




Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: March 22, 2009 at 11:46 PM

This is a vendor post on another forum i found....doesn't tie it to magicar, fortin, idatalink, or compustar. It even admits it is #2 behind magicar, which is the japanese distrubutor of compustar. As for reliabilty of the brand....i'm still searching. The system does have some nice features though. Hope someone chimes in that has used this system.

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1396249



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Posted By: bigbuffs
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 1:05 AM
well I have an easycar system that looks exactly the same except for the name. For the most part it is a very good system with great range but of few of the features have never worked right.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Thanks for the posts mikvot's was very helpful, now I need someone who's tried one recently.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM
I ought to explain, there is only one source of alarm AND R/S products in this country I wont say their name but their products can be reptilian,  the latest 900mhz product may not appear here,  I don't rate them since the last good product was G4 (AG5 etc) from a company they now own (by good I mean well made, durable and does exactly what it says on the label). 2 points. With a 1 mile range how practical is that with an R/S, and even if the alarm triggers what can you do when you're a mile away?  Also the problems with their latest remotes and the various interfaces. I've been on their site  and can't seem to get my head round the different interfaces, even for the same vehicle added to the fact that the interface for the US built Civic with French Valeo transponder doesn't work on the UK built version, also with French Valeo  transponder!  Hell apart from E46 BMW's (556U whilst I can still get it) I'm still pulling the chips from the keys and adhering them to the ignition key antenna housing. This unfortunately means I can't do many of the latest vehicles, Ford Focus US wiring is now very different from the Euro Version, The Euro RS (what a hottie it would murder any Jap Fast and Furious except the new Skyline) is a kludge of Volvo and Ford bits. What a mess.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM
hey howie, the NA distrubitor is in town where i live. They are on Young Street Toronto, Ontario. Anyways, from what i hear, the lead engineer of compustar left, and made his own company called easycaralrms america. Easy car was then bought out by zenesis. IMO, i have installed a few so far. not bad at all. you get more bang for th ebuck compared to a compustar pro system.  The first gen had a crappy menu, but the new revised edition has better software for its remotes and it finally has a bit writer. if you need more info howie, just email me.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
btw i used to distribute for easycar when they were still their own company. i talked to a few shop owners and go them to buy the unit. Its fairly cheap. Retail is 400 installed including bypass. Unit itself is about 140 @ wholesale of 100units.




Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: March 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Thanks Ted




Posted By: dman01
Date Posted: June 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM
hey Howie,

I have the product installed on my car, all the features work great, remote starts beautifully and is very reliable.




Posted By: sam@zenesis
Date Posted: June 23, 2009 at 2:09 PM

hi guys,

my name is Sam Yang and im one of the directors at Zenesis Electronics Corp. (www.zenesisalarms.com).
I was notified by a few people about questions and comments about our products so I decided to join this forum myself to provide some support and answers.

We've been around quite some time already, but haven't really pushed our sales and marketing efforts until last year.
Right now, we have 14 independent reps in the USA along with several key distributors. In Canada, Grandwest Enterprises distributes our line for Western Canada, and for Eastern Canada, we deal directly as we have our office in Toronto as well as in Chino California.

The rumours about Compustar involvement with Zenesis is false. I think the rumours started due to the similarties in the system. Both Zenesis and Compustar have factories based in South Korea. Zenesis is still made in South Korea, while Compustar has moved their factories over to China. However, due to its engineering background in South Korea, we do have similarities. Most systems from Korea are similar. However, that doesn't mean that we have any involvement between the two companies.

We have a few new lines and patented technologies, such as the Z-PASS TOUCH module that sets us apart.
And because of our limited distribution, it also creates a good advantage for the "A-list" dealers.

Feel free to ask me any questions regarding our products. I'm glad to be on here. ;)



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Sam Yang
Director, Zenesis Electronics
Chino, CA, USA / Toronto, ON, Canada




Posted By: geordon
Date Posted: July 23, 2009 at 9:17 PM
sam@zenesis wrote:

hi guys,

my name is Sam Yang and im one of the directors at Zenesis Electronics Corp. (www.zenesisalarms.com).
I was notified by a few people about questions and comments about our products so I decided to join this forum myself to provide some support and answers.

Feel free to ask me any questions regarding our products. I'm glad to be on here. ;)




Sam,

1. Would you care to comment as to how the ZN-502 compares to the Viper 5901, which can be purchased for considerably less?

2. What are the dimensions of the remote?

3. Is there a proximity option to automatically unlock the car when the remote is close enough, without having to actually press a button on the remote? That way, I could just pull out my key, without messing with the remote to find the right button in the dark, or when my hands are full.

4. I would like to use the Aux channels to roll my electric windows up and down. Is the remote compatible with the DEI window module, or do you sell your own?

Thanks,

Geordon




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: July 23, 2009 at 9:25 PM
We actually installed one at our shop about a month ago. Of Course it was soldered and used a PKALL bypass. Customer hasn't given us any input on it. From the look of the brain it looks like a compustar brain. I'm not saying they are the same but they do look alike. Other then that it worked at the shop with no problems. Only thing i saw different was that the remote start does not work if the door is open. It may be a setting but I saw that kind of weird. BTW it was an 08 Automatic TL. In other news, we will now carry Compustar Pro due to the wide distribution of viper everywhere. They also have issues with the alarm that has been solved now but its kinda late.




Posted By: geordon
Date Posted: July 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Forgot to ask, can the Z-Pass be mounted in a location other than the windshield, such as my fixed rear window?

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92 Dodge Stealth R/T TT




Posted By: sam@zenesis
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 12:58 PM
geordon wrote:

sam@zenesis wrote:

hi guys,

my name is Sam Yang and im one of the directors at Zenesis Electronics Corp. (www.zenesisalarms.com).
I was notified by a few people about questions and comments about our products so I decided to join this forum myself to provide some support and answers.

Feel free to ask me any questions regarding our products. I'm glad to be on here. ;)




Sam,

1. Would you care to comment as to how the ZN-502 compares to the Viper 5901, which can be purchased for considerably less?

2. What are the dimensions of the remote?

3. Is there a proximity option to automatically unlock the car when the remote is close enough, without having to actually press a button on the remote? That way, I could just pull out my key, without messing with the remote to find the right button in the dark, or when my hands are full.

4. I would like to use the Aux channels to roll my electric windows up and down. Is the remote compatible with the DEI window module, or do you sell your own?

Thanks,

Geordon

Hi Geordon,

First of all, the ZPASS can be mounted on the back window - but, the wire may not be long enough depending on the size of your vehicle. It's really designed for use on the front windshield. Somepeople have installed it on the upper right corner as well.

To answer your question:
1. ZN502 vs Viper 5901-  not sure where you are getting the prices, but our prices are a LOT less than the 5901. The official MSRP on the ZN502 is $399, while official MSRP on Viper 5901 (as stated on their website) is $649. The prices that other dealers may sell is out of our hands but we do protect it to a point in order to stop price wars from happening and to protect our dealers. Other than that, the most difference in our product with others is the ZPASS TOUCH and the new LCD remote. Everything else is pretty much the same.

2. Don't have the exact dimensions, but it's pretty small. Smaller than Compustar as well if you want a comparison.

3. This feature will come out on our next Z702 model (December release). Microwave sensor systems from some companies don't work well all the time, so customers end up taking the unit out. We're testing different type of sensors and technologies in the meantime.

4. Yes, we have additional aux outputs where you can hook this up.



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Sam Yang
Director, Zenesis Electronics
Chino, CA, USA / Toronto, ON, Canada




Posted By: sam@zenesis
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 1:04 PM

enice] wrote:

e actually installed one at our shop about a month ago. Of Course it was soldered and used a PKALL bypass. Customer hasn't given us any input on it. From the look of the brain it looks like a compustar brain. I'm not saying they are the same but they do look alike. Other then that it worked at the shop with no problems. Only thing i saw different was that the remote start does not work if the door is open. It may be a setting but I saw that kind of weird. BTW it was an 08 Automatic TL. In other news, we will now carry Compustar Pro due to the wide distribution of viper everywhere. They also have issues with the alarm that has been solved now but its kinda late.

If you installed the ZN502 AS (alarm/starter combo) unit, than yes, it shouldn't remote start with the doors opened. The alarm portion of the system kicks in and prevents it from remote starter. If you have the Starter only, than it will start even with the doors opened.
What part of New York are you in? I'll be coming in on the first week of August to visit some key dealers and distributors.



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Sam Yang
Director, Zenesis Electronics
Chino, CA, USA / Toronto, ON, Canada




Posted By: geordon
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 2:37 PM
sam@zenesis wrote:


1. ZN502 vs Viper 5901-  not sure where you are getting the prices, but our prices are a LOT less than the 5901.



I was using street prices of $300 to $350 for the ZN-502 vs $240 for the 5901. I doubt many people on these forums pay full retail for their equipment.

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92 Dodge Stealth R/T TT




Posted By: geordon
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 2:54 PM
sam@zenesis wrote:

2. Don't have the exact dimensions, but it's pretty small. Smaller than Compustar as well if you want a comparison.



Thanks for the info. Surely, you can get your hands on one of these, and provide exact dimensions. For comparison, how does it compare to the 5901, which also uses an internal antenna, like Version 2 of the ZN-502, right?

Thanks,

Geordon

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92 Dodge Stealth R/T TT




Posted By: sam@zenesis
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 3:09 PM

geordon wrote:

sam@zenesis wrote:


1. ZN502 vs Viper 5901-?not sure where you are getting the prices, but our prices are a LOT less than the 5901.



I was using street prices of $300 to $350 for the ZN-502 vs $240 for the 5901. I doubt many people on these forums pay full retail for their equipment.

I'm beginning to think that you are a retail customer rather than a 12volt dealer...  is that correct? :)

Well, I'm actually proud that our "street prices" are $300 to $350 .. although it shouldn't near $300 price range to begin with. That's a testament of how we control pricing. MSRP of $649 and street price of $240 is quite a jump.

As for the dimensions on the ZN502 goes... I'll get back to you on that with a ruler to be more exact.



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Sam Yang
Director, Zenesis Electronics
Chino, CA, USA / Toronto, ON, Canada




Posted By: geordon
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM
sam@zenesis wrote:

I'm beginning to think that you are a retail customer rather than a 12volt dealer...  is that correct? :)



Correct, I am an enthusiast and DIY'er, as permitted by these forums. I apologize if I somehow implied otherwise.

sam@zenesis wrote:

As for the dimensions on the ZN502 goes... I'll get back to you on that with a ruler to be more exact.




That would be great. I appreciate your effort. I think the remote looks pretty slick, but don't anything "bulky" to dangle off my car key.

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92 Dodge Stealth R/T TT




Posted By: enice
Date Posted: July 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM
We are located in the Bronx NY. If you are in the area we will be with open arms if you swing by the shop.





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