starter kill 07 milan
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=112823
Printed Date: April 26, 2024 at 2:11 AM
Topic: starter kill 07 milan
Posted By: chev104275
Subject: starter kill 07 milan
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 8:00 PM
i have a customer that wants a starter kill in his 07 milan he wants somthing different for a trigger i mentioned high beams or rear defrost or power windows but he wasnt happy with any of those
anyone have any ideas ?
 ------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 10:18 PM
How about using a single zone perimeter sensor that will allow the vehicle to start with a pass of the hand over the sensor? The trigger only has to be long enough that it will allow the owner to start the vehicle and after, it will be normally open.
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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: jim hunter
Date Posted: March 31, 2009 at 11:32 PM
if hes willing to give up his cigarette lighter turn it into a kill, if its not pushed in like a lighter car wont start, he can take lighter with him when he leaves no thief carries around a cigarette lighter(it will no longer work as a power outlet for the lighter or anything else)
Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: April 01, 2009 at 1:21 AM
How would you wire that up most cig lighters are just power and ground it doesn't change if the lighter is pushed in or not mabey I
missing something please explain your idea it sounds like a cool idea
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Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 01, 2009 at 5:33 AM
thanks guys for your replies on the single zone perimeter sensor wont that allow anyone to still start it ? just by waving the hand at the sensor ?
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If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: jim hunter
Date Posted: April 01, 2009 at 10:45 AM
you would use a relay, cut the starter wire and run
key side - pin 87
starter motor side to pin 30
cut the power lead to cig lighter and run
power side to pin 86
center pin of cig lighter to
pin 85
what happens with a cig lighter is when you push it in as if to light it the center pin of lighter sends ground meeting the 12volts to heat the coil
so when lighter is pulled relay is closed(pin 87a to pin 30_ starter wire is not connected
when pushing lighter in pin 85 gets ground, opening relay so pins 87 and 30 make contact reconnecting starter wire
since power feed is no longer connected to lighter this is why it no longer works as a lighter or power source
Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: April 02, 2009 at 4:30 AM
chev104275 wrote:
..on the single zone perimeter sensor wont that allow anyone to still start it ? just by waving the hand at the sensor ?
Yes, if you know where to wave the hand. ------------- Ideal - cmon dude, add to topics in a useful manner, not stuff that is obvious.
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 02, 2009 at 6:41 AM
chev104275 wrote:
on the single zone perimeter sensor wont that allow anyone to still start it ? just by waving the hand at the sensor ?
You have to set the sensor low and have it hidden. Under the driver's seat, in the glove box, center top of dash by the windshield..... It would not be any different if you use the cigarette lighter or any other disable technique, if the thief finds the bypass, it will be enabled. ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: jim hunter
Date Posted: April 02, 2009 at 6:45 PM
the big advantage to the cig lighter is A) customer can take lighter with him putting it in his pocket like a keyfob, ( i dont know of too many people let alone thieves that carry a socket style cigarette lighter with them)
B)even if lighter is left in the car not something many people would think to engage to try to start car(plus car has chipped key and unlike chryslers i havent seen too many ford keys defeated)
Posted By: nstaller36695
Date Posted: April 04, 2009 at 1:20 AM
the coolest thing would be a pressure switch maybe under the carpet maybe behind a dash panel. my wife has the 06 fusion and theres a perfect place to cut and glass one in next to the dimmer switch. done right that should look cool just make sure no matter what you do theres some kind of back up switch. just as a side note/question it has the transponder why put a starter kill on it other than just to say it has a starter kill ? you have to have the key/ transponder to start it ------------- the best part of a job is seeing the bumper get smaller over the horizon
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 04, 2009 at 7:38 AM
because she had her keys stolen and doesnt want to replace them i warned her about them still being able to get into the car and she didnt care she just did not want it to be taken again
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If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: jim hunter
Date Posted: April 04, 2009 at 10:14 AM
did she have 1 key stolen and still has 1 but refuses to buy a new one?
if she buys a relacement key the dealer will program it thereby deleting the key she lost
hell she wouldnt even have to get one with the keyless entry built in, she could just use a ford jewel key like the other fords without keyfob built in use
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 04, 2009 at 10:42 AM
yea she had 1 key stolen and has 1 other left im a ford tech that works for a ford dealer i told her that and she just asked about the starter kill
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If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
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