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anti grind power flow viper 5901

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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 04, 2024 at 7:01 AM


Topic: anti grind power flow viper 5901

Posted By: awdonly
Subject: anti grind power flow viper 5901
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 4:01 PM

On the Viper 5901, the remote start harness has 2 wires as part of the remote start/anti-grind feature with a green wire (starter input - key side of the starter kill wire - pin 87a of the onboard starter kill relay) and a violet wire (starter output - starter side of starter kill - pin 30 of the onboard starter kill relay). 

Question:  on remote start operation, the violet wire is obviously powered, but is the green wire powered as well or does it remain dead?  In other words - on remote start does the relay switch pin 30 away from in 87a?




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Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 4:29 PM

The answer is yes, if the alarm is armed during R/S.

  • The coil will be energized, as it is seeing +12V from the IGN and GROUND from the GWA sources.
  • The relay switches #30 to #87, therefore GREEN(#87a) is removed from the circuit.


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Posted By: awdonly
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Thanks




Posted By: awdonly
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 4:49 PM
loneranger wrote:

The answer is yes, if the alarm is armed during R/S.

  • The coil will be energized, as it is seeing +12V from the IGN and GROUND from the GWA sources.
  • The relay switches #30 to #87, therefore GREEN(#87a) is removed from the circuit.


Is this also true wnen alarm is not armed?   I thoguht GWA was active on the Viper 5901 during any remote start operation - even when alarm was disarmed, but I could be wrong.





Posted By: loneranger
Date Posted: April 06, 2009 at 4:56 PM

I assume I confused you with my acronym. My apologies. I re-read your original post and, since you've programmed anti-grind, the relay will always see GWR, during R/S operation. It will only see GWA when armed.

  • GWA = Ground While Armed/Active
  • GWR = Ground While Running

To answer the question of your original post simply, only if the alarm is armed or anti-grind is programmed on. There is a seperate internal relay/circuit that powers the starter wire.



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Story - Phzzzt! Hey, what happened?! ... Isn't it obvious?
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