what type of oem lock used in ford focus?
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Topic: what type of oem lock used in ford focus?
Posted By: mrsinger
Subject: what type of oem lock used in ford focus?
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 6:13 AM
Hi, Does anybody know what type of door lock is used in Ford Focus 2001? I'm installing alarm system and diagram shows few examples how to connect door lock - one for 5 wire motor, one for 2 wire motor, one for some vacuum system and one for 2 wire motor with another 2 wire electric switch. So I'm a bit confused.. How to find out which one is the right one for my car? Thanks for help :)
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Posted By: kim b
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 7:11 AM
Bulldogs wire diagram says it is a type B
------------- Thanks, Kim
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 7:13 AM
uh.. sorry for stupid question - but what is type B?
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 7:25 AM
negitve type
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 7:34 AM
OK, I understand it's negative. but is it only two wires to connect? Some wiring diagrams says - power lock and power unlock and some also shows motor lock and motor unlock.. And my alarm system has 6 wires for door lock - 3 for unlock and 3 for lock. So, it's quite a puzzle.. :( chev104275 wrote:
negitve type
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 7:47 AM
whats the brand of alarm r/s ?? if you could post copy of the install manual for the locks
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 8:22 AM
I'll take my copy from home, scan it and put it here tomorrow.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 07, 2009 at 12:04 PM
It's low current Neg look for a GEM (control box) above passenger right foot and behind glove box. A series ( 2 or 5 depending on model at base) the far right has ORANGE / black or BLACK/ orange lock the next one in has BLACK/ green or GREEN/ black unlock, the indicators blue and blue/red are also there. I've done gazzxillions of them! Just ask. (Nicely and deending on my mood) N.B. There was a 2001 spec change, pre-2001 has those indicator wires at the haz switch, post 2001 has them at the GEM box, also front indicators are in headlight unit on post 2001. When you do the door contacts, use diagramme 1076 on this site. Don't use the dome light.
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 09, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Thanks a lot howie |
| :) I've also heard that almost all wires - like for door and trunk triggers, turn lights maybe except door locks is possible to find behind the fuse box in the drivers side, in some blue 15 wire connector. Is it true? As I understand, it's only two wires that needs to be connected for door lock - for lock and unlock? And one more question - Do I need a relay to connect trunk release to alarm system? thanks for help again :)
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 09, 2009 at 3:51 AM
It's quicker to go to the GEM box, on a Mk l/1a Focus. 2005 onwards the fuse box and GEM unit are combined, trunk release is a low current neg BLACK / YELLOW at the switch. Door contacts can be found in the floor looms, and in some cases at the GEM box but by the time you a)test them out and b) discover that same colour wires are used for multiple functions, it's easier to go straight to the switches in the door shuts . Example on R/hand drives the trunk contact is BLACK/ blue at left hand floor loom but by the kickpanel it becomes yellow/black. Do you have 6 wire or 2 wire on your alarm which is?i.e. what make is it?
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 09, 2009 at 3:57 AM
ok, but the door triggers are put in rubber and it doesn't look like it would be easy to dismount then to connect a wire directly.. I don't want to brake a trigger. I have a 6 wires in alarms for door lock.
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 09, 2009 at 8:27 AM
Don't be stupid, you pull the inner B (and C if 5 door) to get at them. Very easy.
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 09, 2009 at 8:31 AM
hm... I'm not stupid, but this question might sound quite stupid to you :) what is inner B and inner C in a human language? :)
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 09, 2009 at 8:46 AM
OK, the A pilar (or post) is between the windscreen and front door, the B is between front and rear doors and C after rear doors, D between rear 1/4 and back window, sorry these are body shop or manufacturers terms but most installers understand, e.g. dkp = driver's kick panel which is the lower internal section between the front of the front door and the engine bay bulkhead wheel arch. Just slightly prise out the trims behind (inside), that will give you access, the stupid referennce was that it's much easier to do as I suggest than try and remove the lock striker. The problem with that vehicle is that there are a lot of wires with different functions having the same colours, think Peugeot/Citroen. Most of the door contacts are BLACK/ blue but I wouldn't bet on that without testing, as a complication, the power trunk release is BLACK / YELLOW at the switch but on some models is the trunk trigger! Test everything.
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 3:11 AM
I've connected all wires, doors, trunk and hood triggers, also trunk release, but can't find door lock wires :( should be BLACK/ red and black yelow, but there's no such wires.. do you know how to detect the right ones? what I should see on these wires on multimeter when locked and unlocked?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 3:57 AM
Look at my first post they are the colours, if you can't listen to what you've been told what's the point of helping you?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM
Actually you have the US colours, European colours are ORANGE / black or BLACK/ orange for lock and GREEN/ black or BLACK/ green for unlock. Set your meter to 200 ohms setting or contnuity test, connect black probe to ground and red to each pin in the 2 right hand connectors on the gem box. Throw the latch on the door you have open and shut all the other doors.
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Actually I've read all your mesages for a few times :) It's just in many wiring diagrams BLACK/ red and BLACK / YELLOW wires are shown for lock/unlock and it was confusing, because I couldn't find any of these. And as for BLACK/ orange and BLACK/ green, I've found at least a few, that's why I was asking how to measure and find the right ones. So, if I take meter and do as you say, what should I see? I mean, if if I connect wires one by one to the ground, then doors should lock and unlock when I find the right wires? Or should I get some high or low resistance when door is locked or unlocked on these two wires?
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Try the BLACK/ orange first when you insert the probe that should lock, as I said you throw the catch on the door where you are working then shut the other door(s) and remove the key from the ignition switch. Looking at the box sitting over the wheel arch or mounted on the kickpanel, the lockwire is to the outside plug and the unlock is the next one in. I'll get shot for this but you could quite safely use a bulbed test light such as the Snap-On one. It's quite safe. You can even use a direct ground, having made sure that the wire you are testing is not sitting on 12v+
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM
the locks should be BLACK / YELLOW - unlock and BLACK/ red - lock in DKP
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 11:07 AM
No they are not. In Euro models they are the colour I stated.
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM
sorry howie i misread the post yes they are the colors you stated
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Actually Chevy it caught me out because I thought all the wiring was identical up to 2005. I've done a US spec version and I can't remember it being different, it had the GEM box in the same place (right hand above passenger's right foot), I just had to mod the lights to bring it to Euro spec on the alarm. Now we have the ST and the RS, very fast and furious using the Volvo 5cylinder turbo engine, it's a strange mixture of Ford and Volvo parts and wiring, use Volvo/LandRover transponder by-pass etc etc.
Posted By: chev104275
Date Posted: April 12, 2009 at 8:22 AM
Thanks good to know Howie just looking over the ford diagrams and the focus was the same until 2005-2006 gem above the passenger foot well wire colors too for the locks anyway wow 5 cylinder turbo must be fairly quick we have the 2.0 and 2.3 here no turbos
------------- If i Can't Install it I Don't need it Joe
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM
US and UK (Europe but with R/H/Drive) were identical in part placement and wiring colours until 2005 except lock/unlock and indicatorflash/light flash. North America uses amber running lights and red rear white front indicators. The rest of the world uses amber indicators and white front red rear running (side) lights. The Uk spec used blue and blue/red for indicators, US had blue, blue/red and 2 other blue primary colours.
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 14, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Thanks for your help howie |
| I couldn't find no lock wires in a drivers side, just burned a couple of fuses testing wires.. :) but found them rigth away behind the glove box, and it was as you've said - BLACK/ green and BLACK/ orange. Everything is connected and working fine :) Just one more question, I've noticed, that sometimes without even touching door locks doors are givins some clicking sound, like trying to lock or unlock. It doesnt lock or unlock, it's just this clicking sound. Any ideas what's wrong? Could be some short wire or bad contact somewhere? once more, thanks for help!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: April 14, 2009 at 2:42 AM
Not sure what the clicking noise is I've never come across it before.
Posted By: mrsinger
Date Posted: April 14, 2009 at 2:46 AM
well, it sounds very much like, when you press the button to unlock the doors which is allready unlocked. something like that.
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