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2000 bonneville and viper rearm issue

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Topic: 2000 bonneville and viper rearm issue

Posted By: immusicman
Subject: 2000 bonneville and viper rearm issue
Date Posted: April 14, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Viper rearm Bonneville 2000
Question      Hi, I have recently installed a viper 571xv remote starter system in my car. It doesn't provide outputs for a siren or have any alarm functions except it does arm and disarm factory alarms. Which is great because that is all I want to to do here. My question is this: Where do I connect the REARM wire on a 2000 bonneville? I easily found the disarm wire on a diagram, but the rearm alarm wire isn't shown anywhere on my diagrams for the bonneville. I would love for someone to point out which wire this is so I can stop using my factory remote to arm the alarm. I can disarm it no problem. But need to be able to arm it also with the viper remote. Any help would be appreciated. thanks. j   viper 571XV 2-way remote starter and 2000 pontiac bonneville ssei



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Posted By: mikvot
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 12:07 AM
ARM Tan 8-pin plug on driver's door module   - 
 This is a multiplex system. You must go into the driver's door to interface these wires. Pulse a ground (-) to the TAN wire at the same time as lock to arm the factory alarm, diode isolate.


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Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 3:23 AM
Or you can get a data module it makes life much easier and u don't have to go into the door

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Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 10:43 AM
where and which data module? thanks. J




Posted By: shaip99
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 10:46 AM
fortin makes a good one but i would suggest you check out your local shops and see what they carry

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all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive
music."-Kristian Wilson, Nintendo Inc.





Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 10:52 AM
The local shop here doesn't seem to know much about viper or dei stuff and acts like they could care less. Further, when I asked about purchasing a bypass module for starting vehicle they wanted 70.00 bucks for the same one I bought new for 22.00. So I think I will stay away from them for now. I am a mechanic and have been for many years. I like to think of myself as extremely good at electrical stuff. I am the guy people come to when know one else can find their electrical problem. So when I pulled the diagrams for this vehicle, I was surprised that a rearm wire was not identified. Thanks Mikvot for telling which wire. And thanks shaip for telling about the module. I see these data modules listed everywhere but I just want to make sure I get the right one. I already have a DEI bypass immobilizer module so I don't have to use another key. Should I get a module to replace this and do the doors to? Or, add just the doorlock bypass mod.




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 11:11 AM
1. Disarm is light green, inside the driver's door.

2. Rearming is likely to be very difficult without a module. You could try to send the output from your rearm wire to the driver's doorpin wire, AND the lock wire at the same time....seems to work about half the time on GMs, it's a gamble.

3. If you're not buying a module, what are you using to bypass the car's PK3 transponder during remote start?

4. If not using a module, be prepared to run wires into the driver's door for locks and disarm.




Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Chris, I already have ran wires into the door. The disarm is hooked up, the locks are hooked up and functioning properly. I do have a module installed for the immobilizer so I don't have to use a key. Which module do I need to add so I can control door locks, arm and rearm? Thanks. J




Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I think the module I use is the dei 555g which is for bypassing ignition only. Should I replace this module or just add another? Either way is fine with me. J




Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM
mikvot wrote:

ARM Tan 8-pin plug on driver's door module   - 
 posted_imageThis is a multiplex system. You must go into the driver's door to interface these wires. Pulse a ground (-) to the TAN wire at the same time as lock to arm the factory alarm, diode isolate.



Hey mikvot, thanks for your help identifying the arm wire in the door of my 2000 bonneville. My question is this: Can I hook the Power door lock switch terminal that pulses ground when the door is locking to the tan wire with a jumper? I ran a (-) pulse wire from the DEI brain to the door lock switch for unlocking on one terminal and a (-) pulse wire on the other terminal for locking. Can I not use the one for locking and jumper it to the tan wire on the 8 pin connector if I diode isolate it so it only gets a negative pulse when locking and not the positive pulse when locking? Any further help is much appreciated. I bought a 771XV alarm system / remote start I was going to replace my 571xv remote start with, but I would rather just utilize the factory alarm and leave my 571xv in place since it works properly including door locks, dome light, horn, lights. I did it right, but just couldn't figure out how to rearm factory alarm. Thank you! J




Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: April 16, 2009 at 6:57 AM
That tan wire they list there is actually the driver's doorlatch switch. It'll show a ground whenever the driver's door is open.

There isn't any actual direct "arm" wire available in that car.

The way you would traditionally arm the alarm (if the factory remote isn't available) is by locking the doors while the door is open.

Therefore, what you basically need is to send a ground to the (tan) driver's door latch wire before and during the time you send a pulse to the lock switch on the door.

However, if you send pulses to the latch and to the lock wire at the exact same time, it generally doesn't work.

I've tried this on various GM cars, with success about half the time.

You could connect your rearm wire to the tan wire in the driver's door, and see what happens.

It really depends on what timing the Viper's outputs have, and possibly what kind of mood the car is in, but it might work.




Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Thanks Chris, just ordered the XK-01 module to install instead. I think I will like it better. J




Posted By: immusicman
Date Posted: April 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I read that you can in fact arm the alarm by locking the doors with the drivers door open. So I tried this last night. Guess what? It doesn't work. If I lock the car with the factory remote fob, it arms the alarm fine. Even if I open the door, and lock the car using the Viper remote or the door switch and then shut the door, it still doesn't arm. Gonna use the old XK-01 to solve my problem. Hook up the one wire to the data signal on the OBD connector and my factory functions and more will be there.





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