08 09 maxima

Whats the deal w/ these cars? There is not one shop locally that will do these?! they claim that the are burning up bcm...or pcm...One shop has been here almost 30 yrs and said they had to replace 6-7 of the nissans they worked on...This will be huge for my shop! We just p/u a nissan dealer account...Any idea what they are talking about...Just a case of incorrect tech support?????

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!

To be a little more specific...They wont touch installing R/S...?

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!

Exact same as any other late-model push-to-start Nissan. 2009-up Murano, 2007-up Infiniti G, Infiniti EX, Nissan Altima...........all the same thing, just with different wiring colors.

Use the search feature here for the 2007 Altima; there is lots of information available.

In the early days, the modules from ADS (idatalink.com) had an issue that would cause a BCM code to come on, the dealer would have trouble resetting it, and would then unnecessarily replace the BCM.

There were also a LOT of simply terrible installations on these cars, with many things done incorrectly, with installers not paying close attention to the install guides.

Since then:

ADS (idatalink) has corrected the problem with their module. Good guys.

Fortin (ifar.ca) makes the CAN-SL2 which also works very well.

Trilogix (bypasskit.com) XK07 is worthless, doesn't work correctly, and they've made no effort to correct it.......don't use the XK07 or you'll regret it.

In summary: Go to ifar.ca and idatalink.com, and read BOTH install guides for these cars. Either of the two products will work well.

If you do careful, neat work, read the instructions completely, there's no good reason to be blowing up these cars.

You'll see that the first car will take you maybe 200% as long as a regular car.......with practice, you'll be able to do it in maybe 120% of your normal time.

If there's no one in your area who can do these cars correctly, you might be able to get a good $100 premium over, say, an Accord, Impala, or Camry.

On the other hand, some shops are whoring themselves out on these cars, and if there are some of those in your area, you might have to end up doing it for regular price.

But seriously, if your dealer has had trouble with these cars in the past, it's just a matter of explaining that you'll be doing it right, and that they won't be having issues. Maybe even explain (truthfully) that it's not the same as a regular car, and that you have to charge more.

Chris...Thank You for the post...Other then the bypass...Is there anything specific they were doing to set off BCM code...Was it involved in the By-pass programming or during the actual start-sequence...Shut-down sequence...I assume the idata link is the chosen bypass for this vehicle...I would really like to get a jump on installing these b/c til current, noone is installing them...Thanks for your time in advance...{always forget the thank you]

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!

Do make sure to use the search feature for the Altima, lots of information available.

Also sign up at www.12voltdata.com and look at the various posts about the Altima there.

In short:

XK07: Manufacturer lies, pretends it works when it doesn't. They've made no effort to improve their product or admit fault. Don't use the XK07.

Idatalink: You can read the lengthy posts on their forum; they're a very honest and good company.

Their product was causing the car's tire pressure light to stay on, with a BCM code that the dealer couldn't reset. (Well, they actually could reset it if they'd disconnect the car's battery for a few minutes first.) They've since corrected this problem.

Pros: Their module automates the customer's takeover sequence. They have excellent tech support. Just by handling their modules, the quality of manufacturing is plainly evident.

Cons: have to program module before installation.

Fortin CAN-SL2: Did not suffer the above problems.

Pros: Comes pre-programmed.

Cons: Doesn't have the same build quality as the Idatalink stuff. Doesn't automate takeover for the customer. One of the connectors falls out easily if the module isn't tied carefully into place.

It's really up to you between those two.

Thank You again chris...searched those posts a few months ago...But will give it a go tonite...The BCM was really my main concern...or at least the part that it is easily fixed...shame about the XK series bypass...used quite a few of those two seasons ago...pretty much use idatalink now...Is this site still accepting donations...4 yrs ago...i did the activate paypal and sent you guys a whoppin $5.00...but i want to send something again...after we do our first nissan dealer car...wont be much{family run shop}just a token of my appreciation!

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!

Is the 12VOLTDATA.COM...Part of the THE12VOLT.COM...? ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A P.S.

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
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tommy... wrote:

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Is the 12VOLTDATA.COM...Part of the THE12VOLT.COM...? ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A P.S.

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No, it is not part of the12volt.com.

P.S. ...no ;)

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I should have said it before, but www.12voltdata.com is the forum for the manufacturer ADS, maker of Idatalink modules.

Their site is intended for their own customers (shops, installers, etc.) and isn't really geared toward the general public.

Their own tech support guys (I've met three out of the four of them in person, good guys) are on that message board too.

There's an 8-page post about the tire pressure light issue in the Altima. It appears to have been resolved, but if you're interested, it is there.

They are of no relation to www.the12volt.com.

hey chris since running the tach thru the idata module, is it still necassary to program rpm rate or is it all handled automatically thru the fl-can?
due to yours and some other great info about these cars i too just picked up a nissan dealer and will be doing thses with the idata link product but had a couple minor questions ive not seen addressed
THANKS IN ADVANCE
JIM

and your right about shops whoring these cars out! stupid shops giving away 1 button starts for damn near same price as any other car
dont they understand this is a stupid business move for the entire industry?

I see your point...What would be a solution other then matching prices...If i didnt every car(minus regulars) would go right by to the next shop...? You can probably talk quality...but when its a hundred dollar difference in price(for basically the same unit)...Quality is hard to sell...A buddy's shop did almost 65k on black friday between 2 shops w/ the $99.00 start special...It is hard to turn your nose up to those numbers especially w/ this economy...Like hotels making these ,hardly the size of a normal bathroom, hotel rooms ...All high end stuff in a itty-bitty living space...Massage shops are offering 15 minute massages...as opposed to 30 minutes or an hour...Right now new unique ideas will help tremendously w/ sales.

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!