viper 5901 alarm going off after arming
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Topic: viper 5901 alarm going off after arming
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Subject: viper 5901 alarm going off after arming
Date Posted: June 01, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Hey all,
I recently purchased and had installed a Viper 5901 by an authorized retailer into my 2005 Focus ZX3 with a manual transmission. I am asking my question here to hopefully be able to fix myself, and I always forget to call when I'm at work. Plus, to take it to the shop is and hour and half away.
Heres the problem:
After arming the car in either the shutdown manual mode, or regular arming, the alarm will 3 out of 5 times go off within the first 5 mins of arming. Sometimes it will be the soft warn away chirp, and sometimes it will be a full blown alarm. The display is saying it is the shock sensor (which appears everytime). I have the sensor set at like level 8 or 9, which still takes a pretty decent hit of the car for it the alarm to go off.
Any clues to why this is happening?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: June 02, 2009 at 8:45 AM
The shock sensor in that is internal to the brain, right?
Anyway, even if it doesn't seem like it's too senstive, maybe it still is.
I would say the first thing to do would be to turn it way, way down, and see if the problem goes away......if it still does it, then you could start thinking about the brain being defective, or maybe it's not mounted in a good spot.
So anyway, if it stops falsing after that, I would say every day or two, go back into programming and raise the sensitivity just a couple of notches at a time........just a little every couple of days like that.
When it eventually starts falsing again, you know you've made it too senstitive again. Back down a level or two, leave it like that.....that's probably the highest you'll be able to set it for your car/neighborhood/other factors etcetera.
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 02, 2009 at 3:19 PM
bump. Forgot to add. After the alarm goes off like described, and I arm once again when turning off the alarm, it won't do it again so its not a totally random occurence. Only happens within the first 5 mins of arming then not again.
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 05, 2009 at 11:17 PM
bump for more opinions
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 08, 2009 at 11:39 PM
nobody?
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: June 09, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Chris Luongo wrote:
The shock sensor in that is internal to the brain, right?
Anyway, even if it doesn't seem like it's too senstive, maybe it still is.
I would say the first thing to do would be to turn it way, way down, and see if the problem goes away......if it still does it, then you could start thinking about the brain being defective, or maybe it's not mounted in a good spot.
So anyway, if it stops falsing after that, I would say every day or two, go back into programming and raise the sensitivity just a couple of notches at a time........just a little every couple of days like that.
When it eventually starts falsing again, you know you've made it too senstitive again. Back down a level or two, leave it like that.....that's probably the highest you'll be able to set it for your car/neighborhood/other factors etcetera.
Have you adjusted the shock sensor as posted...Change location of brain...? Stated might be a defective brain...Take back to the shop and see if they can put in another and see if problem occurs...It did this ever since it was originally installed? ------------- M.E.C.P & First-Class
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Posted By: KarTuneMan
Date Posted: June 09, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Un plug the shock, then test! Arm it and see what happens.
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 09, 2009 at 5:38 PM
KarTuneMan wrote:
Un plug the shock, then test!
Arm it and see what happens.
from what I understand, the shock sensor is built into the brain on this model so I don't think I could unplug and test.
As far as turning the sensor down I have done that, and it is set pretty low right now to the point where a good hit with my hand won't even set it off.
I'm thinking it might be a brain related issue, as I have read that they can be defective from time to time from the factory, and realized that when they tried 3 PKFM bypasses until they got one that worked.
I plan on taking it to the shop as soon as I get back down to Milwaukee but that won't be for a couple weeks so I was just trying to see if there was something I could do myself without digging into the system that much. I will let them deal with that since its under warranty with them.
Thanks all for the comments.
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 09, 2009 at 6:53 PM
KarTuneMan wrote:
Un plug the shock, then test!
Arm it and see what happens.
from what I understand, the shock sensor is built into the brain on this model so I don't think I could unplug and test.
As far as turning the sensor down I have done that, and it is set pretty low right now to the point where a good hit with my hand won't even set it off.
I'm thinking it might be a brain related issue, as I have read that they can be defective from time to time from the factory, and realized that when they tried 3 PKFM bypasses until they got one that worked.
I plan on taking it to the shop as soon as I get back down to Milwaukee but that won't be for a couple weeks so I was just trying to see if there was something I could do myself without digging into the system that much. I will let them deal with that since its under warranty with them.
Thanks all for the comments.
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: June 09, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Well some alarms allow you to bypass the shock sensor all together...Although would be losing a step of security...If it is only in the first few minutes, i would wait it out , til i got to the shop.
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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 09, 2009 at 11:24 PM
tommy... wrote:
Well some alarms allow you to bypass the shock sensor all together...Although would be losing a step of security...If it is only in the first few minutes, i would wait it out , til i got to the shop.
I think I'm just gonna go down and visit a few friends down where the shop is in Milwaukee and have it fixed on Saturday. I definitely want the shock sensor, and there is no reason it should be going off like it is. Will post up the results/problem when it is resolved. Thanks!
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 14, 2009 at 12:58 AM
A bit of an update:
Took it down Friday. They were on tech support and tech suggested replacing brain and move to a different location. Both were done, and the alarm wasn't going off within the first 5 mins or so like it was before. Seemed all good so I left and thought it was fixed. Well when I got to my friends house, about 15 mins later the same problem occurred.
I took it in Sat. morning again and they called tech again and they couldn't think of much else at the moment and suggested going through and disconnecting wire by wire to see a possible cause.
The shop is only open 10-2 on Saturdays so they weren't able to get into it then, and I will have to come back again so they can have it for the day.
Has anyone else experienced a problem like this? So far I am looking to find any suggestions I can so we can get this issue sorted out.
Again thanks for everyone's help.
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: June 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM
Are you going to try to do it yourself...Might void some shop warranties...But if not worried...Do the taking off wire by wire...Or unhook everything but Power,Ignition,Ground and just use the shock sensor...If The alarm does not false ...keep adding wires one by one and see if you can create problem...Door Trigger, Parking Lights, Etc... And are we sure this time was not an accidental false... And not related to the prior problem...Or it has done it several times since the repair?
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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!
Posted By: jeraldobunkster
Date Posted: June 14, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I am not going to go through and try to do myself. I'm just trying to get as many suggestions as possible so I can get this fixed. The alarm going off happened still after replacing and moving the brain. The shop did everything that tech said (was in the shop watching and listening while they were on the phone) and techs last suggestion was to go through and start taking apart wire by wire.
I'm just trying to see if anyone on here has had the same issue, and what could be causing the problem.
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