2006 dodge magnum alarm issues
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=115377
Printed Date: May 12, 2024 at 5:15 AM
Topic: 2006 dodge magnum alarm issues
Posted By: antifork
Subject: 2006 dodge magnum alarm issues
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I have a client with a 2006 dodge magnum that I'm trying to install a Clifford matrix rsx3.5. My issue is that the alarm arms but doesn't lock and unlock the doors. I put on the double resistors on the one cable that unlocks and locks but the unlock cable stays grounded. Also when the car starts through the alarm it starts but shuts off. But with the key the ignition it starts without an issue. I ran the resistor to the second ignition with the ground but still no go. Can anybody see what I'm doing wrong with the car or could be the alarm itself.
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Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Locks: How do you have them connected? Do you have relays or diodes wired in there?
Remote start: What are you using to bypass the car's Sentry Key theft deterrent system during remote start?
Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Right now I have two resistors on the one cable for the locks but I have the blue(unlock) cable grounding while the green(lock) not doing anything when I arm the alarm. But where is that key sense bypass at?
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Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Are you using relays for locks? How are you placing the resistors? The bypass that Chris is speaking of is something you have to purchase additional to the remote start. It will provide the same information to the vehicle during remote start as the factory key when it starts the vehicle. If you don't duplicate what the car does with the key, you will have all sorts of issues.
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Big Al
Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Hmm I never heard of a module for that. But shouldn't the alarm already have that key sense module with it. But I'm going to try relays toorow on the locks. For now I have a 100 ohm resistor on the unlock side and a 300 ohm on the unlock side. But I think because the unlock cable is staying at a negative pulse the whole time there might be the issue with the resistors.
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Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 11:44 PM
You have to use relays with the resistors in this application. The output current from the brain is only enough to drive a relay.
And as far as a "key sense" module, I think you are misunderstanding what the vehicle requires during remote start. The alarm won't have anything built in for the Sentry Key system. Basically, a chip in the key that emits an RF code that the antenna loop around the key cylinder must receive. Most vehicles or manufacturers (now days) have a proprietary anti-theft system (not an alarm) that deters someone from "hot-wiring" ignition wires to start the vehicle without a key. In theory, when you install a remote start you are "hot-wiring" it, but in a more professional manner! That's what a bypass is for. This may be why the vehicle dies immediately after remote start. There are modules, especially for this vehicle, that will do Sentry Key, locks, and factory arm/disarm.
Check out https://www.xpresskit.com
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Big Al
Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: July 30, 2009 at 11:49 PM
That's a very interesting point I need to take a look at that tommorrow.
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Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: July 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Ok I tried to use a canmax400 today with bad results. The thing killed itself. Any other modules that could would be appreciated.
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Posted By: ajstetler
Date Posted: July 31, 2009 at 8:05 PM
I personally have used the DLPKCHG2 module from xpresskit. It does door locks, Sentry Key, and factory alarm/disarm. There are other modules that installers have used, I just never used them. I have no particular preference to this module.
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Big Al
Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: August 01, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Ok I have basically gave up on the car because 1 the customer got wized already and 2 I have no more money to spend on another module. Good news the alrm didn't go to waste it ended up another car that the client had.
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Posted By: richl68
Date Posted: August 01, 2009 at 8:46 AM
you work at a shop and dont know that vehichles require bypass modules for remotestarts???
Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: August 01, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Nope I work at home. Alarms are like a hobby for me. I have another dayjob
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Posted By: richl68
Date Posted: August 01, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Ah ok...i would goto www.flash-it.com or www.xpresskit.com or even on here under the car security/convience section and try to familiarize yourself with all the new bypasses and modules that are used now on most vehs 1998+. the basic understanding and concept behind a Module is that there is a r/f chip inside of the keys, the veh reads this r/f code saying that it is ok to start the veh and that no one is trying to steal it using a fake/faulty key. So when you install a remotestart the veh has no way to see the r/f signal...or code says that it is ok to start the veh. The bypasses either learn the r/f code or use a spare key along with a r/f ring around the key cylinder to "trick" the vehs computer into thinking that there is a key with the right r/f code in the ignition to start the car.
Posted By: antifork
Date Posted: August 01, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Yeah i heard about those flashing for the modules. The guy that sold me the module never mentioned and I had to find out about it afterthe module burned from a dude at bestbuy.
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