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Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 64 impala wagon viper 771

Posted By: rawcustumz
Subject: 64 impala wagon viper 771
Date Posted: August 12, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Whats up guys.
I did most of the install today on the wagon for the Viper 771vr.
I didnt find a couple of things though.
1. Starter Wire?  I know where it is under the hood but I would rather catch it inside for a cleaner install.  Any idea what the wire color is?
2.  I found parking lights at the switch but it doesnt work as a neg or pos when you change the jumper?  I was thinking maybe I needed to use some relays possibly.  If so can some one point to a diagram, im still a little foggy on relays.
3.  Power lock wires.......LOL, j/k Im adding acuators later on all 4 doors.
The only other thing is has anyone done a remote start on a carburated engine before(i know some of you have).  Is there an acuator or a solenoid that can be used on the accelerator rod to give it a couple of pumps before starting, kinda like what I have to do before I start it with a key?  I was thinking a trunk pop solenoid but wasnt sure, if so can someone point me towards a web site that would carry that?
Other than that I think I got it but I maybe back with more.
I aquired the wagon in March of 09 and started with dropping a 350ci engine matted up with a th350 trans instead of the 283ci that had a 4spd manual.  It was suppose to be a stock power glide but someone put a 4spd in it and it was rigged bad, so bad it wouldnt shift at times.
I also had to add a radio, I made a temporary center console that holds an old pioneer flip out, ipod and 2 cup holders.  I will do a new one once I get buckets and the new center console will blend in with dash and end in the back seat.
Runs good now and shifts fine so time to get to work on brakes, exhaust, interior and a ton of body work.
Thanks for your time
Bernie

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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE



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Posted By: Twelvoltz
Date Posted: August 12, 2009 at 8:54 PM
I have done a few remote starts on carbureted vehicles but it has been quite some time. The last time I did one I used a trunk pop solenoid activated by an auxiliary output, press the aux twice, activate remote start. The biggest problem with these is that the motor/carb/choke/etc have to be properly setup. If you can get into the car now, press the gas twice and the car starts and stays running you should be fine. However most carb'd vehicles don't start that easily, especially when cold.

The starter wire is probably purple, but verify this PRIOR to hooking into it. The parking light wire is probably brown, and positive switching, what does your meter show you when you test the wire you think is the parking light wire?

Good Luck with the Resto!

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Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: August 13, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Twelvoltz wrote:

I have done a few remote starts on carbureted vehicles but it has been quite some time. The last time I did one I used a trunk pop solenoid activated by an auxiliary output, press the aux twice, activate remote start. The biggest problem with these is that the motor/carb/choke/etc have to be properly setup. If you can get into the car now, press the gas twice and the car starts and stays running you should be fine. However most carb'd vehicles don't start that easily, especially when cold.
Thats true, sometimes I can get in pump gas twice and be on my way other times i have to hold gas and crank at same time and sometimes that might take a couple of tries.  I really need to check my timing still its not dead on just yet.  I will test for that starter wire.

The starter wire is probably purple, but verify this PRIOR to hooking into it. The parking light wire is probably brown, and positive switching, what does your meter show you when you test the wire you think is the parking light wire?
When testing the parking light wire at the switch, its at 0 when off and goes to 12 when on.  I had the jumper set to postive because i thought thats what it was but it didnt work so i changed the jumper to neg and still doesnt work and the fuse is good.

Good Luck with the Resto!

Thanks for the help so far
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: August 25, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Got the remote start working.  Right now its on Voltage sense w/ Low Voltage set.  Going to change to tach since if I try to remote start it and it doesnt start it doesnt relize that and then just stays on and than the battery dies.

I am still having no luck with parking lights though
Any ideas would be great

Thanks
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: August 25, 2009 at 9:08 PM
It will start when you program to tach, but it will die immediately! Leave it set to volatge sense and take the engine checking off, and voltage threshold also at low! If it still shuts off after a few seconds, you could use a tach inductor from dei, alot easier and safer.

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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: August 25, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Have you checked the suspect parking light wire with a meter?

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JW.ORG.
COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF.
PSALMS 37:5




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: August 26, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Yes sure have and it reads, 12v when I turn them on and back to 0 when I turn them off.
i just wasnt sure with the age of the car would I need some relays, I know on some cars you need relays to get parking lights to work

Any ideas
Thanks

Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: August 27, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Sounds like you have it...If there is a dimmer,go up/down on dimmer and see if voltage changes...If it doesnt have a dimmer switch...Or doesnt change voltage...Your all set...! And worst case...You can always go to the Parking Light itself...Sometimes is faster then looking in car...! And what system are you putting on there...If it has a + output for Parking Lights...You should be fine...! Dont think a relay is in order...!

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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: August 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM
On some cars you might have to isolate the parking light wire...on others...just convert polarity...! Most older cars(Although i have installed about 0 r/s's in a 64 impala wagon...!) are pretty straight forward...just make sure it is not the dimmer wire...!

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M.E.C.P & First-Class
Go slow and drink lots of water...Procrastinators' Unite...Tomorrow!




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: August 27, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Ok I didnt think of that, I will check the to make sure its not the dimmer wire because the dash lights do dim.
The only thing is though I have checked all the wires in that harness and none of the others provide a 12v at rest or when I turn on the parking lights.
Let me check again
thanks guys
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: August 27, 2009 at 9:44 PM

t&t tech wrote:

It will start when you program to tach, but it will die immediately! Leave it set to volatge sense and take the engine checking off, and voltage threshold also at low! If it still shuts off after a few seconds, you could use a tach inductor from dei, alot easier and safer.

Why will it die immediately?  All the remote starts I do I do the tach wire.  Voltage is to inconsistant.
I have it set to voltage now on low voltage but would like to set it to tach
Help me understand why it will die
Thanks
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: jmsounds
Date Posted: August 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM

hello    it will die because the the alarm is program for tach and is not detecting any voltage you need to change to voltage check it would be more recomended on this car because if the car does't start the alarm will keep the starter engage until it detects the engine is running   /unles you know the car will start any time without pushing the gas pedal you may use the tach wire 

parking light should be brown  i don't think is deferent color  i just  did a 66 impala    good luck





Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: August 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM

I did set it to voltage check, and I set it to low voltage because on regular voltage it would die after 10 and in the manual it says to change it to low voltage.

I wanted to set it to tach because thats the best way to do a remote start normally.

I have the parking lights on the brown wire and im getting nothing.  Did you goto the parking light or were you able to get it at the switch??

Thanks
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: September 02, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Alright back to the parking lights
I used my meter and tested the white wire coming out of alarm for the parking lights.  When I turn on my parking lights Im getting 12v on that wire but if I leave the lights off and arm and disarm the car its not sending  out any volts at all?
Is the alarm bad??  Or am I testing it incorrectly??

im leaving the  remote start alone, its on Voltage test.  Its really only hooked up for  the fun of it I really dont use it.  Its working  so thats what counts.

Thanks for your time
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: September 02, 2009 at 10:18 AM

I came across one of these (530t) and would like to use it on my rear powered window in my 1964 Impala Wagon. I was wondering since I dont have the technology in my old car for the one touch feature will this module work?? I was also thinking maybe the window would be to heavy but it goes up faster than some chevy truck front windows. I know how to install them just wondering if it would work since I dont have an auto down module already? Lastly I prob should have it closer to the motor than the switch correct?  The switch is on the dash and Im looking at doing the rear tailgate window.  Its already powered by the way.

Thanks for your time
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE




Posted By: rawcustumz
Date Posted: September 15, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Back to parking lights.
I just noticed tonight that my tail lights flash when I arm and disarm the car along with my dash lights.
But my front parking lights do not flash at all
I checked to make sure they are working and they are.  I checked to make sure they are working with blinkers they are
Any ideas why they wont flash with alarm???

Thanks
Bernie



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Bernie
MECP Certified
64 Impala Wagon
2007 Camry LE





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