remote start ib tbkiii
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 09, 2024 at 6:04 AM
Topic: remote start ib tbkiii
Posted By: joekool
Subject: remote start ib tbkiii
Date Posted: October 24, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I installed a omega excalibur AL-1820-EDP alarm in a 1999 toyota 4runner limited. I got everything to work properly except for the remote start. I am new to the transponder bypass thing. I did purchase a IB-tbkIII universal transponder and also a ib-t transponder interface...(I don't think I need to install both of them together but I have purchased one because I couldn't get the other to work)... Which transponder is easier and faster to install? I am really confused on how to wire any of the transponders with the alarm to get the remote start to work, I have been trying for two days now but to no avail. What else do I need to do? Can someone PLEASE help me I need to get the remote start working because it is getting cold? ------------- Thanks, Joe
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Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 24, 2009 at 7:34 PM
On a universal module, you need to put a functional key inside the box, then put the ground wire to the GWR wire of the remote starter and the red wire to the ignition wire of the remote starter....that's it....very simple
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MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
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Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM
ok thanks for your reply... the key was already inserted... the red wire goes to the ignition wire of the remote starter and the ground wire to the ground of the remote start or can it be grounded anywhere?
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM
No, the black wire goes to the ground when running of the remote starter...not ground.
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
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Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 24, 2009 at 10:39 PM
ground when running of the remote starter... is that the (-) 3rd channel output - Pink wire or is that the (-) start activation Input - WHITE/ blue wire on the Auxillary Wiring Harness Connectior?
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM
It's the wire that goes to ground when the remote start is activated! on dei units it's blue/white.
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 2:30 PM
yes
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I tried everything I cannot get this thing to remote start. I am positive I have done everything right with installing the TBK. What does it take to get this thing to work!!!! Everything should be programmed with the remote (I suppose), I believe it is something I am overlooking... Im stomped! Anymore suggestions will be very appreciated! ------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 7:07 PM
How about the ring that goes around the ignition cylinder...Just make sure the ring is attached properly to the ignition cylinder...Does it remote start fine with the key in the ignition....? Just dont have both keys showing at the same time...! Meaning when trying the key in the ignition...Make sure the bypass is disconnected...!! Make sure you test the key in the bypass also...Start the vehicle to assure that the key is good...Are those the ones(bypass) that you have to wrap a few times around the ignition cylinder?(the wires that wrap the cylinder are thin and need multiple turns around cylinder) What happens when you remte start...All the lights come on the dash...But it doesnt crank...ETC...? Or it does nothing...?
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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 7:16 PM
The wrap around the cylinder should kinda look like this... https://documents.audiovox.com/701176.pdf------------- M.E.C.P & First-Class
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Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 7:34 PM
We need to know if it starts with the key inserted into the key cylinder and the tbk disconnected....we need to know if your remote starter is programmed properly and that all ignitions are working good before we suspect the bypass..... ------------- Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM
tommy... wrote:
How about the ring that goes around the ignition cylinder...Just make sure the ring is attached properly to the ignition cylinder...Does it remote start fine with the key in the ignition....? Just dont have both keys showing at the same time...! Meaning when trying the key in the ignition...Make sure the bypass is disconnected...!! Make sure you test the key in the bypass also...Start the vehicle to assure that the key is good...Are those the ones(bypass) that you have to wrap a few times around the ignition cylinder?(the wires that wrap the cylinder are thin and need multiple turns around cylinder) What happens when you remte start...All the lights come on the dash...But it doesnt crank...ETC...? Or it does nothing...?
Echo...echo.......echo ------------- M.E.C.P & First-Class
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Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Yes, I have the wrap around wire on tight and correct... the vehicle doesn't even start with the remote and the key in the ignition so I suppose I have something wired up wrong, huh? I double checked my wiring and everything seemed to be wired correctly. From the vehicle wiring diagram Yellow/black is Ignition 1 and BLACK/ red is ignition 2, is that correct? Can I remove the starter Interrupt? Any suggestions?
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 7:14 PM
12V: WHITE/ Red
Ignition 1: BLACK / YELLOW
Ignition 2: BLACK/ Red
Acc: Blue/Red
Starter: GREEN/ Black or black ------------- Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
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I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Can I remove the starter interrupt relay bypass? ------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM
You mean the starter kill relay?
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 8:15 PM
yes, do I have to hook that thing up
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Not really cause you have a transponder system in you car.....installing the starting kill relay will only give you double protection. I never install them unless my customer really wants it...
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 8:21 PM
ok I am going to remove it and triple check the ignition wiring...stay tuned
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Hey guys is me again! All the ignition wires are connected together but I can still cannot get the remote start to function with or without the key or with the bypass module... Its making no attempt to start the vehicle whatsoever it just gives me the armed chirp. Anymore suggestions outhere? ------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 10:45 PM
syl20rochon wrote:
We need to know if it starts with the key inserted into the key cylinder and the tbk disconnected....we need to know if your remote starter is programmed properly and that all ignitions are working good before we suspect the bypass.....
Sounds like it is not set-up properly(programming)...Meaning set to tach or tachless...If set to tach...Make sure the tach learn sequence has been learned...Next check your brake connection(correct wire)...Check the hood pin connection and make sure it is only seeing ground when hood is up......And quite a few units have a wire , sometimes black-white , that needs to see ground in order for the remote start to activate...All these things will have you experience a no response from the remote start...Most commonly its the programming or the wire that needs ground...The wire that needs ground is commonly used in conjunction with a toggle switch... ------------- M.E.C.P & First-Class
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Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Good point with the BLACK/ white wire because I do have it on my remote module and it is designated for Neutral safety swith. Good point with the tach learning thing as well because my module has that to. Can the BLACK/ white wire go right to ground or does it have to go to the neutral safety switch?
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 26, 2009 at 11:16 PM
my vehicle has a NOT GROUNDING TYPE neutral safety switch. Does that mean I cannot connect the BLACK/ white wire to the neutral safety switch? ------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 6:57 AM
Just send the BLACK/ white to direct ground.....
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Hey guys I got the engine to crank! But it won't run what can that possibly be?
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Do I have to hook the starter interupt wire anywhere? The tach learn sequence has been learned I just need the vehicle to run now
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: slavin326
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 10:07 PM
does it have cold start wire?
try this, warm up your car with the key to normal operation temperature
then kill it, and try to start it with the remote starter without the key in the ignition. if it does start then it's your cold start wire not connect. it should be in the ignition wire harness with starter, ignition and acc wires.
Posted By: slavin326
Date Posted: October 27, 2009 at 10:15 PM
basically it's
starter 2 wire,
I had similar issue installing viper 5901 on 2000 nissan altima, this was the issue:
the starter would turn over, but the car wont start.
tried it when the car warmed up to normal operational temperature , the remote start worked.
here the solution(thanks to chriswallace187):
"You'll need a standard automotive SPDT relay for the 2nd starter wire. Wire as follows:
(-) 2nd start output from Avital.
86, 87: constant fused 12V(you can connect this to the 12V inputs to the brain between the brain and the fuseholder.
30: 2nd start wire on truck. "
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 12:37 AM
it was a programming issue I managed to figure out (Everything NOW works with the module which includes the REMOTE START. Thanks to all who helped me especially major shout outs to ...syl20rochon & tommy you guys have been a huge help to me. Thanks much, again!!!! I can now enjoy my remote start! ------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 7:52 AM
Good stuff...! Your Welcome...!
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Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Hey guys I got one more problem... I wired the black wire on my bypass to ground because I could not find a GWR on my remote start module. Unfortunately that drained my battery :(. Is there a way to wire a relay so that it won't drain my battery?... oh yeah I do have a keysense wire on my bypass module
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Which remote starter did you install?
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Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Omega Excalibur AL-1820-edp, I tried every ground wire but to no avail
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM
I'm not familiar with this product but does it have 2nd or 3rd ignition (-) output on the remote starter harnesses? GWR is also called, negative out when running....If you have a pdf install manual... or if you have a scanner, email me the wiring schematic at syl20rochon@hotmail.com------------- Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 8:07 PM
I dont have a scanner but I did take a pic, I hope you can see it
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Thanks, Joe
Posted By: syl20rochon
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM
NO, I don't see the picture...sorry....Send the picture on my email....syl20rochon@hotmail.com------------- Sylvain Rochon
MECP security specialist
Tech support for remote starters
26 Years of experience counts
I'm here to help.
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM
yeah, I sent them to your email i am jm1446@yahoo.com------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: joekool
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM
I sent it again in segments hope that helps ------------- Thanks, Joe
Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: October 28, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Just list the wires and there desription...If the pic doesnt work???
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