I'm confused with which bypasses I need to get to make a remote start system work. He has the FAST key (proximity key) system and doesn't want to lose a key. I have access to xpresskits/dei bypasses and was wondering if the DLPK + a RFLMIT3 was really all I needed. This guy is picky so I want to avoid the stop/restart issues as well. I've seen something about a XKEYMIT3 and a 1101T and that's where I started getting confused.
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you can get a PATS-MITSUBISHI2, but all mitsu bypasses are dealer program only.... :(
I understand the dealer will have to program whatever bypass I use (unless I can convince him to give up a key) I'm more concerned that I get the correct parts the first time. It's not my first RS install by a long shot but it is my first "proximity key" install.
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imtfox,
Here's an install I did on a Lancer with FAST keys about a year ago. I would assume that the same solution would work on your car.
Some other things to note:
As far as a standard RF bypass, a PKU-MIT3 will probably work just as well for half the cost of a DLPK. Doesn't do locks, but they're (-) trigger and inside the car anyway. If you wanted to integrate factory alarm control a DLPK would be useful, but the alarm also disarms with ignition - and presumably the customer would use the FAST key to enter when the car's not remote started.
To avoid a shutdown and restart - when the car senses it's been started with a passive RF transponder (as opposed to the active signal from the FAST key) it keeps the column locked. In my install above, the customer was willing to accept this. Some ideas if you wanted to avoid it:
1. Duplicate the metal ignition key inside the FAST key, cut off the head of the key with a Dremel or equivalent, remove the ignition knob, and put this key inside the lock cylinder. Cheap and easy, but you've obviously compromised the theft deterrence of the vehicle while it's remote started by doing this.
2. Open up the steering column and take a closer look at the electric lock release mechanism (obviously it's there because the knob will turn freely with a FAST key in the vehicle but not otherwise). If you could access the wires for electric release, you could use a delay timer to activate the release, so that the customer has 30 seconds or so from when he unlocks with the remote to get in and turn the knob to "Run".
The downside of this is that there's some risk that the lock might self-destruct when opened. I didn't try this method so I can't vouch for its efficacy.
3. Program a 3rd FAST key and use it inside an 1101T.
This site has them for $100 plus shipping, and the owner's manual should tell you how to program it to the vehicle, provided you have 2 working key remotes already.
If you do this it would also be ideal to have the remote start shut down when a door's opened (again, because the car's otherwise ready to be driven away by anyone who gets in, whether or not they've got a key) - and use the unlock from the aftermarket remote to override this shutdown for 30 seconds or so.
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