suggested alarm with these features?
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Topic: suggested alarm with these features?
Posted By: sinn
Subject: suggested alarm with these features?
Date Posted: November 10, 2009 at 1:18 AM
00 Chevy Silvy, ecsb
First off - I have never installed an alarm, but my truck has a crimestopper in it that currently does not work. I am not using another crimestopper product and need something else...long story
The features I need are -
glass break sensor
shock sensor
single tone siren
horn
(maybe an air horn added)
window roll up/down
and something for operating my solenoids for the shaved door handles
I appreciate any suggestions
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00' / Chevy / Silverado / Ecsb
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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: November 10, 2009 at 2:59 PM
A basic dei system with all the right add-ons will give you everything your heart desires, there won't be any specific system that is suited to all the needs you listed there! Viper 1002, you can make it into a single tone siren, you'll have to purchase the glass break sensor and the window module also, i don't have the glass break sensor p/n but the window roll, i would reccomend the 530t!
Posted By: howie ll
Date Posted: November 10, 2009 at 4:18 PM
507T? And of course once you install them all together unless you VERY CAREFULLY set them up, you'll get lots of nice noisy false alarms. All you need is a 1002 plus a 508d
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: November 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Pretty much every alarm comes with a shock sensor, but almost never a glass sensor or window module.
(You will find the occasional alarm from China on eBay that includes some of these sensors as free bonus items, but if you read around the forums for other users' experiences, these alarms usually come with lots of frustration and aren't worth the small savings.)
Anyway:
Glass break sensor: DEI 506T. Super inexpensive, very easy to install with clear instructions. I've only put in a handful but I've never had a comeback.
Window module: There are many modules around, but if you look carefully, some of them only do up, or only down. You want the DEI 530T. It's a little more expensive, but it controls two windows up, and down, and also can automatically roll them up whenever you arm your alarm.
Single tone siren: Most any siren you find will cycle through six different tones over and over. The smaller-style Audiovox sirens, and some certain DEI sirens, can be taken apart and you can disable five of the six tones, leaving only the one you like.
If need be, if the alarm you choose doesn't have this type of siren, you could always use a DEI or Audivox siren with any kind of alarm.
Horn: Many alarms have a horn-honk output, but not all. Make sure you choose one that does. The alarm doesn't care whether you have an air horn or just the factory one.....you could even add the air horn later on.
Outputs for shaved doors: Hmm, I don't know if I have a good answer on this one.
I mean, lots of alarms have plenty of auxilary outputs, and pretty much every alarm will have one output that would be used to open the trunk on a sedan.
But sometimes you have to push a combination of buttons to get those auxilary outputs to come on, which isn't always convenient.
My brother in law has a truck with shaved doors, and some sort of remote that he got from the same people who sold him the shave doors kit.....I'll try to ask him how it works.
I've been using Audiovox products for a long time, and I'm very happy with them, but there should be all kinds of alarms that should meet your needs.
More questions:
1. Do you want remote start?
2. Do you want a 2-way pager remote?
3. If you do want remote start, is it a manual or automatic?
4. Do you want the ability to use your cell phone to arm and disarm the alarm from long distances?
Posted By: sinn
Date Posted: November 11, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Chris Luongo wrote:
Pretty much every alarm comes with a shock sensor, but almost never a glass sensor or window module.
(You will find the occasional alarm from China on eBay that includes some of these sensors as free bonus items, but if you read around the forums for other users' experiences, these alarms usually come with lots of frustration and aren't worth the small savings.)
Yeah, I wouldn't go with a China made alarm!
Chris Luongo wrote:
Anyway:
Glass break sensor: DEI 506T. Super inexpensive, very easy to install with clear instructions. I've only put in a handful but I've never had a comeback.
Window module: There are many modules around, but if you look carefully, some of them only do up, or only down. You want the DEI 530T. It's a little more expensive, but it controls two windows up, and down, and also can automatically roll them up whenever you arm your alarm.
Single tone siren: Most any siren you find will cycle through six different tones over and over. The smaller-style Audiovox sirens, and some certain DEI sirens, can be taken apart and you can disable five of the six tones, leaving only the one you like.
If need be, if the alarm you choose doesn't have this type of siren, you could always use a DEI or Audivox siren with any kind of alarm.
Horn: Many alarms have a horn-honk output, but not all. Make sure you choose one that does. The alarm doesn't care whether you have an air horn or just the factory one.....you could even add the air horn later on.
Alright I will start doing more research, I'm hoping to get one by Friday and install it Saturday!
Chris Luongo wrote:
Outputs for shaved doors: Hmm, I don't know if I have a good answer on this one.
I mean, lots of alarms have plenty of auxilary outputs, and pretty much every alarm will have one output that would be used to open the trunk on a sedan.
But sometimes you have to push a combination of buttons to get those auxilary outputs to come on, which isn't always convenient.
My brother in law has a truck with shaved doors, and some sort of remote that he got from the same people who sold him the shave doors kit.....I'll try to ask him how it works.
Well from what I have read in previous posts is that, with shaved door handles you don't need a lock output from the alarm (since there are no handles to open) Someone suggests using the unlock output for the drivers door and using the lock output for the passenger door. Then using a window modulator and use the #3 output/roll down the driver window and #4 output/roll down the passenger window. I got that idea from this thread...
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=30419&KW=alarm+channels
So in that concept I would need a 4-channel alarm?
I've been using Audiovox products for a long time, and I'm very happy with them, but there should be all kinds of alarms that should meet your needs.
Chris Luongo wrote:
More questions:
1. Do you want remote start?
2. Do you want a 2-way pager remote?
3. If you do want remote start, is it a manual or automatic?
4. Do you want the ability to use your cell phone to arm and disarm the alarm from long distances?
Possibly a two-way pager remote, but none of the other features you listed. ------------- 00' / Chevy / Silverado / Ecsb
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: November 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
I like your idea of how to open the doors. I would do it slightly differently but almost the same.
You know how most new cars, when you unlock the doors, it unlocks only the driver's door on the first press, and then on the second press unlocks all the doors?
I can't stand that feature and never hook it up on my cars, but, many (not all) aftermarket alarms have the ability too......and I think you can use that to your advantage.
1. Buy an alarm that has a driver's-priority unlocking feature.
2. As you said, there's no such thing as "locking" the doors since you can't open them from the outside.......don't hook the alarm's lock output to anything.
3. Use the alarm's "driver unlock" output to trigger the solenoid that opens your driver's door.
4. Use the alarm's "passenger door unlock" output to trigger the solenoid that opens the passenger door.
Now, it should be pretty easy for you.
When you walk up to your truck and hit the Unlock button on your remote, the alarm disarms and your driver's door opens.
If you have a passenger, just hit Unlock a second time, and he can get in as well.
Of course, this means that EVERY time you disarm the alarm for whatever reason, you're also opening the door. If, for whatever reason, you want to disarm the alarm but don't plan on driving, you'll have to go to the car and close the door again.
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