Newbie Alarm questions
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: June 20, 2025 at 5:31 PM
Topic: Newbie Alarm questions
Posted By: freeman
Subject: Newbie Alarm questions
Date Posted: April 03, 2003 at 9:38 PM
Hi there, my car is a 97 Sebring vert
sorry to bother, but i have alot of questions on installing my car/remote alarm system: Audiovox prestige 996: LINK
1: What kind of wires can i use to wire doorlocks, trunk, starter, tach etc....?
2: How can i use my shock sensor and radar sensor on my brain? wire parallel to the brain? or use a output from the brain? I have relay with harness but i donot know how to wire the sensor to the relay. Both sensors have 4 wires(Red, Black, Green, Blue) Where can i install my radar sensor?
Regarding the 97 Sebring Vert wiring diagram:
3: Why is it that under the Alarm & Remote Start sections, both uses the same wire? For example:
RemoteStart;
Start - Yellow - ignition harness
Ignition #1 - D Blue - ignition harness
Alarm;
Starter Kill - Yellow - ignition harness
Ignition +12 volts - D Blue - ignition harness
4: Is there any place nearer to wire my tach wire?
This is my first time doing wiring on cars and installing an alarm, it is a pretty challenging project for me.
all advice is appreciated, thanks.
Dan
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Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: April 03, 2003 at 10:21 PM
Constant 12 volts RED (2) & BLACK IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 12 volts D BLUE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter YELLOW IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Dome Light YELLOW (-) BLACK 3 PIN CONN. IN DR. KICK PANEL
Trunk Pin Switch TAN/BLACK (-) 8 PIN BLK CONN. LEFT OF STEERING COL.
Parking Lamp BLACK / YELLOW (+) GRAY 16 PIN CONN. AT FUSE BLOCK
Power Lock SINGLE WIRE SYSTEM 20 PIN CONNECTOR AT BODY CONTROL
Power Unlock WHITE/ L GREEN MODULE IN DRIVER KICK PANEL #217
#217- See Single Wire Resistor Door Lock Diagram.
yes they both will use the same wires. they are designed to do that. you can just use the wires that came with the alarm... See Single Wire Resistor Door Lock Diagram
Tach Signal BLACK/ GRAY AT DISTRIBUTOR (6 CYLINDER) *
Ignition #2 D GREEN/ RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS ** #235
Ignition #3 BLACK/ ORANGE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **
Accessory BLACK/ WHITE IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS **
Neutral Safety BLACK/ L BLUE (-) AT SWITCH ON TRANSMISSION
Brake Light WHITE/ TAN (+) AT SWITCH ABOVE BRAKE PEDAL
Reverse Light VIOLET/BLACK (+) 16 PIN GRN CONN. LEFT OF STEERING COL
you will need a 620 ohm on the lock wire and a 2.7k ohm on the unlock wire... ------------- Good Luck
David
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Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 06, 2003 at 9:09 AM
Thanks, is this the same diagram for lock/unlock: LINK
If so, does that mean i need 2 relays?
On the Ignition #2, you have a #235, where can i find diagrams #217 & #235?
On my second question, how can i connect 2 sensors with 4 pin connectors?
No one have told me about hooking up to my speed sensor, is it necessary since only 1 installer have told me about it.
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: April 06, 2003 at 12:08 PM
what is the brand of unit again...
i use the omega line.
yes i use a DLS with two relays for the units i use very very simple to hook up.
send the info with an e-mail address and ill try to send the info to you.... ------------- Good Luck
David
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Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: April 07, 2003 at 12:31 AM
This alarm/r.s should be installed by a prof. If you have never installed before this is a complicated unit to do a first time install
And the question about the shick sensor and the relay
-the relay is for the starter kill-the shock sensor plugs directly into the unit
-tach wire has to go to dist. or uncommon color wire of fuel injectors
-radar sensor? are you talking about the antenna, again it just plugs into the unit!
-i think you are looking at a designtech wire diagram, just use the remote start diagram for the ignition wires, the starter kill color is just the starter.
-you have to thoroughly read the instruction manual unless (and trust me on this) you are going to be without a car for a while and wind up paying someone anyway
-you probably bought the unit on the internet for 140
but your local shop charges 400-500, why do you think the labor costs 300-400 - this takes time and experience!!
Also is your key head grey? if so you have another problem to defeat -you have a chip in the key!
GOOD LUCK, hope I helped
------------- Cruisin Security And Sounds
Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: April 07, 2003 at 12:33 AM
Also your door lock system should just be a neg. system
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Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 07, 2003 at 7:55 PM
thnks guys, my doorlock is a single wire positive wire.
I agree this is a very challenging project, and i donot have the $$$ to pay a pro to install it.
I will read my manual over and over.
All help appreciated.
Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 12, 2003 at 5:23 PM
I'm doing my parking lights now, my manual says connect the Parking Light Flasher Feed to a fused constant +12v source. (Max 15Amps)
Can i use a 30Amps fuse instead? Cos i want to tap it into the +12v my alarm is using with a 30Amp fuse.
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: April 12, 2003 at 11:08 PM
what is the brand of unit????? ------------- Good Luck
David
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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 13, 2003 at 7:38 AM
No you can not use a 30 amp fuse for the parking light because you do not need a fuse that large. The larger the fuse, the more amperage it takes to blow it and in the case of the parking light, it is better to have a lower fuse rating than a higher one. BTW Draasch, the brand of unit is " Audiovox prestige 996: LINK " as stated in the first post  ------------- Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: April 13, 2003 at 11:43 AM
im blind in one eye and i cant see out of the other.... your parking ligt wire shouyld have a fuse on it already.i dont use that brand, but i think most of them out there have a fused parking light wire. ------------- Good Luck
David
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Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 13, 2003 at 5:23 PM
You mean on my alarm harness or the fuse block? My brand did not have a built-in or included fuse holder for my parking lights. :(
i have 2 more questions.
My manual says i need a relay for the horn, so i do need a relay, right? Or is it not necessary?
My alarm harness have 2 Starter Kill wires, both goes to the same wires i hook up my start kill relay to, is it necessary to use both starter kill wires? Or using 1 is fine. If it is necessary, can i connect both starter kill wires to 1 relay?
I did not know i needed SO many relays for my car, i should have bought more. :confused:
Thanks.
Posted By: draasch
Date Posted: April 13, 2003 at 9:45 PM
your starter kill wire might be hooked up to an internal relay. if that is the case then you will need both wires. the relay will act as a drawbridge, when activated, it will keep the power from going to the starter....
what is the output of the horn wire???? most cars use a neg. wire on the inside and it changes to a pos. on the outside of the car. pass on the info and we will take it from there. ------------- Good Luck
David
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Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 13, 2003 at 11:36 PM
never mind about the horn, i did not read it right, i donot need a relay cos my horn is negative.
My manual says (optional relay required) The instructions are exactly the same as the 1st starter kill wire.
Is there any way to test to see if it is necessary to hook this 2nd wire up?
Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: April 14, 2003 at 2:43 PM
if you are talking about the orangte wire and the ORANGE / white wire then you can not hook up both of these wires. I would suggest using the solid org. wire. the difference is that the org. gives out a neg pulse when the system is armed and the org/wht gives out the pulse when the unit is disarmed this translates to that down the road if something happens to the alarm (disfunctions) then you will not be able to start your car
------------- Cruisin Security And Sounds
Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 14, 2003 at 8:22 PM
Thanks all of you, i hoped this thread will help others as much as it HELPED me. :)
I am almost done with the alarm, everything works from alarm to doorlocks.
But i have 2 more questions, i cannot remote start my vehicle, on my LCD pager, it states (inhibit), i assume it means starter inhibit active.
All my doors, trunk, hood is closed. And the brake is not touched. The brain have learned the tach signal too.
I check briefly that the wires are all hooked up correctly, but will check again tomm. Please help me narrow down the problem.
and i cannot start the car with the key, nothing happens, but maybe because i hooked up the orange & ORANGE / white wire and CrusinS&S says not to hook both wires which i will check tomm or later.
Thanks again, hope this is my last questions.
Dan
Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: April 14, 2003 at 10:40 PM
how did you hook up both wires?
You have to wire your relay differently for each org. wire.
use the solid org. and splice into the org. off the Audiovox supplied relay, cut your starter wire from the car in half, put the starter side to black on the relay, put the key side on red AND WHITE/ black on the relay.
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Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: April 14, 2003 at 10:41 PM
oh and draasch is wrong there is no fuse hooked up to your parking light flashers, you will need to use a seperate inline fuse
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Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 15, 2003 at 9:49 PM
CruisinS&S wrote:
how did you hook up both wires?
You have to wire your relay differently for each org. wire.
use the solid org. and splice into the org. off the Audiovox supplied relay, cut your starter wire from the car in half, put the starter side to black on the relay, put the key side on red AND WHITE/ black on the relay.
Um, to confirm what you said, put RED & WHITE/ BLACK on the relay to the key side of the starter wire?
My manual shows alittle diff, is shows RED to +12V IGN/CRANK, thats the only diff.
Please advice because everything works except my Remote start! It shows on my LCD pager (inhibit), my tach was learned and everything looks ok.
Thanks.
Posted By: CruisinS&S
Date Posted: April 15, 2003 at 10:52 PM
same thing its cleaner if you tie both RED / wht black together, when you try to switch the ign you give off a 12v+ on the key side of the starter wire so putting them together or seperate will do the same thing. GOOD LUck let us know what happens
------------- Cruisin Security And Sounds
Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 16, 2003 at 7:59 PM
unfortunately it did not help when i wire both together.
Do you think my remote start is hooked up properly if i cannot start the car after unplugging my starter kill relay?
Thanks.
Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 17, 2003 at 5:05 PM
i read that the hoodpin is the first reason the remote start ain't working. I did not use the factory hoodpin, i used a mercury switch with the hoodpin harnessprovided for the hoodpin. it works great.
But my hoodpin harness have 2 outputs, one to negative shut down, and Instant trigger.
But all i did was use this harness and hook up one wire to the instant trigger. I have one wire from the mercury switch to ground too and it works great.
It chirps once when i arm. So it shows that all exits are closed. If it chirps 3 times, it means something is open(hood/trunk etc..)
Do i have to hook up the other end of the hoodpin harness?
Or is there a special/different way to learn/program tach?
when you said:(with the purple wire from your ignition wires of the alarm).
Did you mean the purple wire to the accessory from the power harness?
Hope this info helps, Thanks.
Posted By: freeman
Date Posted: April 19, 2003 at 11:36 PM
Thanks you guys who helped me along step by step, i would not have done it without you.
i found my problem, it was because of my orignal hoodpin harness that have 2 ends(to triggers from the brain) but i only used one.
i am soooo happy! :D
Dan
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