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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=118517
Printed Date: May 02, 2024 at 9:40 PM


Topic: alarm/remote start wiring

Posted By: Bushytea
Subject: alarm/remote start wiring
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

I am currently working on a 1998 Grand Marquis. I got most of the wires hooked up for power and ignition. I also hooked up the door lock/unlock wires and the parking lights but I get nothing when arming the system.

I am pretty positive I have the right wires. I have the lock going to a pink / YELLOW wire in the driver door kick panel and the unlock going to a pink/lt. green wire in the same location. However, when I hit the arm button nothing happens with the locks. It does have the keypad on the door as well.

I have a few sites that have wiring diagrams for this car but they seem to contradict each other in some areas. For example, 12volt says the factory disarm wire is GREEN/ purple but no other diagram that I find mentions this wire. The alarm I have has a wire that can be run to a factory alarm wire to disarm it so I wanted to double check with others to see if this is correct.

Thanks!




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Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Quote-"You're pretty positive".Quote

How pretty? DMM testing pretty? Or connecting straight from a diagram pretty?



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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Well as far as the constant power, accessory off the main power harness I DMM tested because multiple wiring diagrams showed different wires.

On the door locks and parking lights I went by the wiring diagram given here and in another post. Haven't really had any problems yet using diagrams but might not be working as well on this install.





Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Does your vehicle come with the keyless entry fob or not? Test the parking light circuit, positive trigger, driver's kick panel!

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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Well the person I am installing this for bought the car a few months ago and the person did not include the fob with it. After some research I found where it is considered keyless entry because it has the keypad on the door. I tested the locks and I get power to the lock wire of the system from the pink / YELLOW wire in the kick panel and no power when hitting unlock. Then it just the reverse when I hit unlock for the other wire.

So the parking light circuit is in the kick panel? It showed it was going to the LCM under the dash.

Thanks!





Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM
The you have to five wire that setup! Those are the actuator wires you have!

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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:48 PM

When I test from the brown (+) wire at the LCM it shows no power without the parking lights on, then there is power once I turn the parking lights on.





Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:51 PM

t&t tech wrote:

The you have to five wire that setup! Those are the actuator wires you have!

oh really, I hate how many different wiring diagrams there are on the net. There is another one that said this about the setup:

NOTE *2 If vehicle is equipped with a FACTORY KEYLESS ENTRY System, then the vehicle has a Negative (-) Door Locking System, vehicles without FACTORY KEYLESS ENTRY, have a 5 Wire Reverse Polarity Door Locking System. Vehicles with the KEY PAD on the Door are considered to have KEYLESS ENTRY.

Not saying they are right because apparantly they may not be since the locks are not working.





Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM

The diagram on this site says it's brown!

I can't say for certain if that is the case with the locks! Maybe someone else can chime in! Cheers!



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COMMIT YOUR WAY TO JEHOVAH AND HE WILL ACT IN YOUR BEHALF. PSALMS 37:5




Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Are the wires pretty thin...? How are you testing these wires...Test lead to what and what...? Also you should hear the brain clicking...Check the output on the system itself... What unit are you installing...Is that unit capable of triggering positive door locks...Or is it just a negative trigger coming from the unit(alarm or r/s)...?

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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:07 PM

tommy... wrote:

Are the wires pretty thin...? How are you testing these wires...Test lead to what and what...? Also you should hear the brain clicking...Check the output on the system itself...

Yeah, the lock/unlock wires are pretty think that are in the kickpanel. I am testing between the connection I have to the lock wire down to the plug that plugs into the brain. When you push the lock/unlock button on the transmitter the brain does click.





Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Power UnlockPINK/LIGHT GREEN(REV)W/OUT KEYLESS ENTRY REVERSE POLARITY...(+) ON KEYLESS EQUIPPED VEHICLESposted_image
posted_imagePowerLockPINK / YELLOW(REV)W/KEYLESS POSITIVE TRIG DRIVERS BOOTposted_image


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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:09 PM
What unit is it...Does it have both + and - door lock output...?

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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:11 PM
The system can do both positive and negative. It is an alarm with remote start.




Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Disconnect from car and check output on the brain...Then take black lead to ground...red lead to door locks in car...Press and hold lock on switch...Should read 12 volts...Do the same with the other suspected wire...If i remember there are other similar color wires...! It says parking lights are in a black plug in the DKP...!



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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:41 PM
tommy... wrote:

Disconnect from car and check output on the brain...Then take black lead to ground...red lead to door locks in car...Press and hold lock on switch...Should read 12 volts...Do the same with the other suspected wire...If i remember there are other similar color wires...! It says parking lights are in a black plug in the DKP...!


Thanks. I did get the issue resolved for the parking lights. They now flash when arming or disarming the system. I will check the output on the brain as well. On the door lock volts I believe I did that already unless I am not understanding what you mean. I checked from each wire that I believe was the lock and unlock wire based on the diagram. They both get 12 volts when pushed but no volts when the opposite is pushed.

Thanks





Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:48 PM
He means check the output of the wires on the alarm brain!

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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM

oh ok, yeah I tested the connection off the brain and when I hit either lock or unlock it get just a small bit of power reading. (Digital MM died on me so having to use an needle style meter). The needle goes up but not much at all.

I know that isn't a great bit of info but just hard to read this other mm.

Thanks!





Posted By: cmgrewe
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Has any one done a remote start on a 2008 Toyota yaris




Posted By: cmgrewe
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 6:19 PM

I am installing a remote starter in a 08 Toyota Yaris and everything is working great except the airbag light will not go off when I start with the remote starter.  It does however go out when I use the key.  Has anyone every encountered this and if so I do I fix it.  Thanks Chet





Posted By: t&t tech
Date Posted: December 14, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Start your own thread! You probably didn't power an ignition or accessory wire

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Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Here is what I have on the door locks now.

On the plug for the switch I have a pink / YELLOW wire that show power only when pushed to lock. A pink/lt green wire that has power only when pushed to unlock. Then I have a black wire for ground, a GREEN/ YELLOW wire that has constant power along with the illumination wire(which most say don't count).

So from what the information states here this would be a positive lock system?

Thanks!





Posted By: Bushytea
Date Posted: December 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Well, it could be the 5 wire as you stated before and the previous wiring information I found could be wrong.

The 5 wire does not mean there are exactly 5 wires but that there could be 4 or 6 wires instead of 5. Well not counting the illumination I have 4 wires then. One constant power, one ground, lock wire and unlock wire. 

Thanks!





Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: December 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM
You could just give the suspected wire a 12v pulse and see if it unlocks...I'm thinking it is the output on the unit as opposed to having to 5 wire that car...I have a 98 Grand Marquis...Been awhile...But it has the pad on the door and the wires were just a + trigger...Maybe you could wire up a relay for + pulse and see if that works...I dont think we ever got the model # of the unit...Re-read the door lock wiring description in the install manual...

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