2004 altima immobilizer problem
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: 2004 altima immobilizer problem
Posted By: xtac1080
Subject: 2004 altima immobilizer problem
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Installing a Viper 5901 in an 04 Altima. Vehicle does not have factory alarm. Everywhere I look, including Mitchell On-Demand, I see that the data wire coming off the immobilizer circuit is blue/red. The tech sheet that came with the IM05 says that it is a 6 pin connector. These are all wrong. I have a 4 pin connector, with wires black, yellow/black, WHITE/ blue, and pink. Any ideas?
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Posted By: Steven Kephart
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 1:46 AM
Are you sure you are looking at the correct harness? According to Idatalink and Firstech you need an 8 pin harness. They offer pictures of the ignition barrel and plug if you need a visual.
Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 3:38 AM
I am 100% certain I am looking at the correct harness. I have wrapped wire around transponder modules a million times before. I even followed the 4 wires coming off it as far as I could in hopes they would change color somewhere...fail. If I unplug the harness from the module, the vehicle will just crank but not start and the security light above the cluster will illuminate steady indicating the wrong transponder code has been received.
Posted By: Chris Luongo
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 7:49 AM
Whatever sheet comes with the bypass module may or may not be correct.
Go to www.xpressdownload.com, then somewhere in the upper right click "Install guides" or whatever it says there.
Then you'll see a bunch of different products, click on the XK05. (P.S. Your Omega IM05 is just a rebadged Trilogix XK05.)
Then there will be some different firmwares there...for Mazdas, Toyotas, and whatnot. Click on the appropriate firmware for your car (PKN-something....PKN2 probably) and you should see the correct install guide.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM
the info i have, there are 2 connector types. Either it is 8pin or 6pin connector at immobilizer ring. For 6pin connector
Data - Pin # 6
Ground - Pin # 4
Security LED - Pin # 3
Ignition - Pin # 2
12v constant - Pin # 1 For 8 pin connector
Data - Pin # 8
Ground - Pin # 5
Security LED - Pin # 4
Ignition - Pin # 2
12v constant - Pin # 1 ------------- Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 11:35 AM
I have the PKN2 install guide. It shows this model should have either a 6 pin or 8 pin connector, but this is not the case. It is indeed a 4 pin connector. I was going to take a picture but my digital camera was no where to be found. The wires again are black, yellow/black, WHITE/ blue, and pink coming off the transponder. This is getting frustrating. I appreciate the help though.
Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Does anyone perhaps have links to pictures?
Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Or a way to test which of the four wires is the one I need?
Posted By: dasbogie
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 12:06 PM
by chance do you have a camera phone you could take a picture of this plug/harness?
Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM
dasbogie wrote:
by chance do you have a camera phone you could take a picture of this plug/harness?
The vehicle has left my presence, unfortunately.
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM
well what i can think of. there will be 3 wires you can test for at least. Constant 12v, ground and ignition. the last one would probably be your data wire. ------------- Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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Posted By: mustyk@att.net
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Ihave uploaded a diagram from nissan--hope it helps!
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thetopinstaller
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM
hey mustyk, got a link to the diagram ? couldnt find it.
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: December 28, 2009 at 11:27 PM
tedmond:
Two of the wires test as 12v at all times, no matter the key position. Another wire tests as -12v at all times no matter the key position. The final wire tests as no voltage, in any position. This is the pink wire if I remember correctly. I am going to hook up to it when the vehicle returns and see what happens. God I hate this vehicle.
Posted By: mustyk@att.net
Date Posted: December 29, 2009 at 7:10 AM
I guess I haven't figured out how to link my diagram yet ------------- thetopinstaller
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: December 29, 2009 at 7:59 AM
for some reason, everywhere i look for bypass info, it shows either a 6 or 8 pin connector. im sure you have the wrong plug. that 4pin plug you have might be for powering other things related to starting (power for immobilizer ring) etc
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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert
Posted By: xtac1080
Date Posted: April 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM
It turns out the vehicle was a 2005 Altima. Shame on me for wasting all of our time, and for trusting the customer.
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