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alarm/auto startPrinted From: the12volt.comForum Name: Car Security and Convenience Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc. URL: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=119600 Printed Date: May 17, 2024 at 4:07 PM Topic: alarm/auto start Posted By: sumwood Subject: alarm/auto start Date Posted: January 24, 2010 at 6:45 PM Expert Help Requested
Hey Guys, I just upgraded to a 2009 F150 XLT Crew Cab from a 2004 F150 XLT Supercab. I am installing a Clifford 3.3x Responder LE 2-way Security and Remote Start System. I have been able to get the alarm to function as I want it to, but I am having trouble with the remote start. I am pretty sure the problem lies with the bypass and the OEM immobilizer. I have hooked the bypass up several ways and still can not get it to disable the immobilizer. When I try to remote start, the system beeps a few times, the lights come on, gauges light up, and I hear some clicks at the ignition switch. The security dummy light on the instrument panel flashes rapidly. The Keysense (Blue/White @ Ignition Switch) wire is currently cut and the violet wire from the bypass is connected to it. I have nothing currently connected to the Ignition Switch side of the Keysense wire. I also do not have anything hooked up for the Lock Motor because I did not find anything in the Clifford installation manual for this. If anyone could review the connections below and offer any advice, I would greatly appreciate it. Clifford 3.3x Truck Connection is Bold ---------HARNESS 1----------- RED / White AUX Trunk Release, (-) 200mA Not Used Red 12v (+) Constant, Input 12v (+) @ SJB Brown Siren (+), Output Red from Siren WHITE/ Brown, Flex Parking Light Relay 87a Not Used Black Chasis Ground Ground(-) @ Drivers Kick Violet Door, (+) Input Grey/Purple @ Dome Light Blue Trunk, (-) Instant Trigger Input Not Used Green Door, (-) Input Not Used BLACK/ White Domelight, 200ma (-) Output Grey/Purple W/Relay @ SJB WHITE/ Blue Remote Start Activation, (-) Input Not Used White Parking Light, Output 30 PURPLE / White @ SJB Orange Ground-when-armed,(-) 500mA Output Not Used Domelight Supervision Relay 85 BLACK/ White Domelight, 200ma (-) Output 86 Red 12v (+) Constant 87 To Grey/Purple @ SJB 30 Ground (-) @ Support Under Radio ---------HARNESS 2----------- Light GREEN/ Black OEM Disarm, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Light GREEN / WHITE OEM Arm, (-) 200mA Output Not Used WHITE/ Violet AUX 1, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Violet/Black AUX, (-) 200mA Output Not Used WHITE/ Black AUX, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Light Blue2nd Unlock, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Grey/Black Wait-to-Start, (-) Input Not Used BROWN / Black, (-) 200mA Horn Honk Output Not Used ---------HARNESS 3----------- Pink Ignition 1, (+) Output (Also Ignition Sense Input) WHITE/ Orange @ Ignition Switch RED / White, Fused 30a (contact 87 of RS Flex Relay) Not Used Orange Accessory, Output PURPLE / Green @ Ignition Switch Violet Starter, Output (Car Side of Starter Wire) Blue/White @ Ignition Switch (Car Side) Green Starter, Input (Key Side of Starter Wire) Blue/White @ Ignition Switch (Switch Side) Red 12v (+) Constant, Fused 30a Input (Ignition 1 Relay) 12v (+) @ SJB Pink/White Flex Relay, Output (Default is Ignition 2) Not Used Pink/Black Flex Relay Contact 87a, (Default is Ignition 2) Not Used RED / Black, Fused 30a (For Accessory and Starter Relays) 12v (+) @ SJB ---------Remote Start In----------- BLACK/ White Neutral Safety, (-) Input Ground (-) @ Support Under Radio Violet/White Tach, Input Connected to Fuel Injector Brown Brake, Shutdown (+) Input PURPLE / White @ Brake Switch Gray Hood Pin Switch NO/NC (-) Input Connected to Hood Pin Blue/White 2nd Remote Start Status, (-) 200mA Output Not Used ---------Remote Start Out-------- Blue Remote Start Status, (-) 200mA Output Connected to Blue on Bypass Pink Remote Start Ignition 1, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Violet Remote Start Starter, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Orange Remote Start Accessory, (-) 200mA Output Not Used Pink/White Flex, (-) 200mA Output Not Used --------Door Lock/Unlock----------- Blue, (-Unlock) PURPLE / Gray @ SJB Green, (-Lock) Gray / YELLOW @ SJB --------Other Connections----------- Tach Threshold Jumper, Set to Low Neutral Safety Switch, Set to On Antenna Four-pin Connector, Connected Status LED, Connected Valet Program Switch, Connected DEI Express Kit (Bypass), TBXKEY Truck/Other Connection in Bold Antenna Loop Wrapped Around Ignition Switch Black Ground (-) @ Support Under Radio Red 12v (+) @ SJB Violet Blue/Gray (Cut) @ Ignition Switch (Car Side) Blue/Gray (Cut) @ Ignition Switch, Blue/Gray (Cut) @ Ignition Switch (Switch side Not Used) Blue Connected to Blue Remote Start Status on Remote Start Out Harness Green Not Used Brown Not Used Spare Key is Inserted into bypass. Replies: Posted By: JWorm Date Posted: January 24, 2010 at 7:20 PM 3 potential problems I see.
One problem is your door trigger. You have it connected to the (+) door trigger input of the alarm, but then you have the dome supervision relay sending a ground output to the dome light wire. One of those is wrong. I don't have a tech sheet for your truck, so I'm not sure which one. Try connecting the RED / white in harness 3 to constant 12v at the SJB. You shouldn't be cutting the keysense wire in the truck. I assume the violet wire on the TBXKEY is a (-) keysense input. Just connect it to the keysense wire in the truck. The way you have it now, you "key in ignition" warning chime will not work. The purpose of the violet wire is so the bypass doesn't activate if there is already a key in the ignition. Posted By: sumwood Date Posted: January 24, 2010 at 10:18 PM I tried to connect the Door trigger to the GREEN/ PURPLE (-) wire under the drivers kick panel per the wiring diagram on the Bulldog Security Website. The only problem is there are two of them at that location.
I have also reconnected the Keysense wire. I tried many combination's to get this to work and the cut version was my last try. I just left it until I could find a solution. I have another problem now. The Airbag light in the instrument panel is staying on now. It will come on at start-up for about 5 seconds, then it will go off and come back on again and stay solid after another 5 seconds. If I cannot resolve this, I am just going to bite the bullet and take it into a shop and have them finish the install to get it working. I do not want to have any issues with the airbags. Posted By: KPierson Date Posted: January 25, 2010 at 1:05 AM sumwood wrote: How is this a problem? Use your meter to verify which is the correct wire and hook it up. You did verify all wires before making any connections right? If not, maybe a wrong connection is causing the airbag light to come on! ------------- Kevin Pierson Posted By: tedmond Date Posted: January 25, 2010 at 1:44 PM i got a feeling this was a blind connection where no wires were verified.
------------- Ted 2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries Compustar Expert Posted By: sumwood Date Posted: January 25, 2010 at 6:51 PM Yes I was using a Meter and did test the wires. Today i tracked all of those GREEN/ purple wires and they all lead to one of the connections at the streering column. I am thinking the wire I needed to be looking for was not GREEN/ purple. Anyhow, I got fead up with it and pulled the entire thing out and taped up all of the locations I tapped into. The airbag lite is off now, hoever I also noticed earlier the right blinker is now not functioning. I need to check the bulbs and flasher relay. I talked to a local shop and they want $400.00 to do the install. Does this sound reasonable? |
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