keyless entry, 2000 dodge ram

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Topic: keyless entry, 2000 dodge ram

Posted By: clockmaker
Subject: keyless entry, 2000 dodge ram
Date Posted: February 03, 2010 at 9:41 PM

Hi,

Would someone be able to help me with the install of the viper 211hv? I have a 2000 Dodge ram 2500 p/u with the Cummins if that makes a difference.

, thanks.

Don

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Hi,

Can someone help me with the viper 21hv for a dodge 2500 ram truck?

Don

Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 4:43 PM

Whatcha need...? Can you provide a link to the INSTALL manual... Do you have a meter...? Do you need wire to wire help...? Wire locations...? Which wires on the unit to use... ?? Can you be a little MORE specific in the help your looking for...!

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Posted By: x1le
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 5:53 PM

211 is super easy to hook up. Is there anything specifically that you're confused on?

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:10 PM

The instruction print is very small, it appears it gets righ in to the wiring on the viper 211 but what about the location of the wiring these wires are matched to on my truck? Are all the wires required to be connected to operate the keyless? Don't know what all is to operate when installed correct. Not something I have done before but with help I know I can get it done, thanks for getting back.

Don

Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:20 PM

No..you will stagger cut(like a staircase) and then tape the unused wires...All you really need is power,ground,ignition and then door lock wires...Is this JUST a keyless unit...?

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Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:25 PM

	Battery		RED		(+)		IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
	Ignition 1		DARK BLUE		(+)		IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

	Power Unlock		PINK/VIOLET		(REV)		DRIVERS KICK PANEL
	PowerLock		ORANGE / VIOLET		(REV)		10 PIN CONN DR. KICK PANEL REV POL

Oh yeah and parking lights...(if its just keyless...)...Here is the factory disarm wire also...!

Alarm Disarm	LIGHT GREEN/ ORANGE	(-)	DR. KICK GROUND PULSE THROUGH 1500 OHM

Parking Lights	BLACK / YELLOW	(+)	DR.KICK PANEL "WHT PLUG DRIVERS KICK

If it is also an alarm... heres the door trigger...

All Door Trigger

YELLOW

(-)

DR. KICK PANEL "WHT PLUG DRIVERS KICK

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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:26 PM

the viper 211hv is just a keyless.

Constant 12v - RED (+) @ ign switch
Ignition - DARK BLUE (+) @ ign switch
Unlock - PINK/VIOLET (REV) @ DKP in 10pin connector
Lock - PINK/VIOLET (REV) @ DKP in 10 pin connector

you will need 2 relays OR use the DEI 451m door lock interface.

Hope this helps.

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Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:27 PM

damn tommy, one minute too late ahah

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 7:58 PM

It is just keyless, I was told when I bought the thing that nothing else was needed(relays) I hope to wire it for the keyless entry, and have the lights come on? The color wires you mention on the unit are they the same color wires I look for on my truck? Many thanks for the help.

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 8:04 PM

Lock.... pink/vioel or ORANGE / violet

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 9:02 PM

Don't have a ORANGE / violet wire, there is an orange wire. Don't have a pink/violet wire, don't have a pink wire? The only wire that comes close to a violet is a large wire that comes out of the box 2 different locations then into a fuse and comes out as one wire?

Posted By: x1le
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 9:33 PM

tedmond wrote:

you will need 2 relays OR use the DEI 451m door lock interface.

the 211hv is literally just 2 relays for the lock/unlock portion.

here's what you need to connect.

wiring on 211hv_____wiring in your ram
red _____ red @ ignition harness
violet _____ red @ ignition harness
violet/black _____ red @ ignition harness
black _____ ground
GREEN/ black _____ ORANGE / violet @ dkp
white _____ BLACK / YELLOW @ dkp
brown _____ BLACK/ red @ steering column
light GREEN/ black _____ light GREEN/ orange (need to attach through 1.5k ohm resistor)
You need to cut the unlock wire and hook these up accordingly
BROWN / black _____ pink/violet @ dkp switch side
blue/black _____ pink/violet @ dkp car side

Be sure to meter all wires.

Hope this helped, bro!

Posted By: moonliter
Date Posted: February 04, 2010 at 10:07 PM

Just uploaded Viper Model 211HV Installation Guide

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 05, 2010 at 5:24 AM

The installation guide is wrote for those that have done this kind of install / work in the past. Like where is the best place to mount the 21hv box, the guide is wrote thinking you know all the small stuff.

Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: February 05, 2010 at 7:22 AM

I usually look for a big harness/loom high up under the drivers dash... I usually mount my brain first(up and over the loom and then zip-tied) and then route all the wires to there connection points...Then you can cut the wires to a proper lenght and make the connection...Since this is just a keyless...Anywhere is fine...Just be sure to always go over/above any existing wires...It will stop the wires from falling/hanging down...

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 05, 2010 at 10:07 PM

Thanks so much for all the help.

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 05, 2010 at 11:36 PM

Will this truck have a + or - ground?

Posted By: x1le
Date Posted: February 05, 2010 at 11:38 PM

there is no such thing as a + ground.

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 14, 2010 at 3:27 PM

I have tried wiring this unit as per instructions given... I connected the red,violet and violet/black to the red wire in the ignition harness. The violet and the violet/black wire come out of the connector as 2 different wires then at the in-line fuse become 1 wire? I connected the black to ground, could not find a BLACK / YELLOW at the dpk to connect the white wire( there is a yellow/black?) I connected the brown wire to what looked like a BLACK/ red wire at the sterring column. At the dkp I have a 1 pink/violet wire and 1 ORANGE / violet wire which I connected the BROWN / black and the blue /black wire. The GREEN/ black wire I did nothing with account there is not another ORANGE / violet wire.

Results.... when I push the lock button the horn beeped 1 time and there was clicking in the little box then at some point the 10 amp fuse for the power locks blew? As info when speaking of the dkp, that is not easy place to work. After 2 hrs of this I am back to where I started after replacing the fuse?

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 15, 2010 at 9:43 AM

x1le, with what you have given me and the info I find in my service manual this is what I will try next.

The red wire, violet & violet/blk wire(both leave the in-line fuse as violet) will connect to the red wire at ignition harness at column.

The GREEN/ blk wire will connect to the org/violet wire at the dkp(door lock)

The brown wire will connect to the blk/red wire at the steering column(small wire)

The white wire is to connect to the blk / YELLOW wire at the dkp(I did not see the blk / YELLOW wire but did see a yellow/blk wire, there are 2 connectors at the dkp, will look again)

Will cut the pink/violet wire(door unlock) at the dkp, connect the BROWN / blk wire to the switch side of the pink/violet wire and connect the blue/blk wire to the car side of the pink/violet wire.

Does what I describe look correct?

Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: February 15, 2010 at 3:28 PM

x1le]< wrote:

trong>there is no such thing as a + ground.

https://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et207.htm ... I'm guessing this guy has a couple years on us...I remember hearing a buddy do a radio install on one...And then him telling me the story 12+ years ago...II remember thinking...Is this like the left-handed monkey wrench...Or the headlight fluid...! I guess i still have never worked on a british/pre-50's vehicle...I'm sure i will at some point...!

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Posted By: x1le
Date Posted: February 15, 2010 at 3:44 PM

clockmaker wrote:

x1le, with what you have given me and the info I find in my service manual this is what I will try next.

The red wire, violet & violet/blk wire(both leave the in-line fuse as violet) will connect to the red wire at ignition harness at column.

The GREEN/ blk wire will connect to the org/violet wire at the dkp(door lock)

The brown wire will connect to the blk/red wire at the steering column(small wire)

The white wire is to connect to the blk / YELLOW wire at the dkp(I did not see the blk / YELLOW wire but did see a yellow/blk wire, there are 2 connectors at the dkp, will look again)

Will cut the pink/violet wire(door unlock) at the dkp, connect the BROWN / blk wire to the switch side of the pink/violet wire and connect the blue/blk wire to the car side of the pink/violet wire.

Does what I describe look correct?

Looks correct clockmaker. Also, it looks like I forgot a connection in my original post. You must also connect the yellow to your ignition wire @ the ignition harness. Also, I'm not sure if you are or aren't, but you must check all wires with a dmm prior to connecting.

And tommy, looks like you got me lol.

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 15, 2010 at 4:14 PM

no problem, the others that replyed never mentioned the yellow wire either? will let you know what I find.

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 15, 2010 at 4:17 PM

tommy....... the only time there is a + ground is when you are positive it is ground!!!

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 15, 2010 at 8:45 PM

- or + ground? Looks like what I was after was does this system have reverse polarity, looks like it may?

Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 3:17 AM

Here's a few things that might help get your install working:

1. Your truck doesn't have a positive ground electrical system. I don't know if this is obvious, and you were just joking there - some much older (think pre-1980 at the latest) vehicles did. Yours doesn't. The black ground wire gets a ring terminal crimped onto it, and screwed to metal on the vehicle.

2. I hope you're not just randomly connecting wires under the dash without testing - that's a good way to seriously damage the keyless entry unit or the truck itself. Especially when you're looking for the BLACK/ red horn wire, which might well be close to airbag wires - don't go anywhere near that until you've verified with a DMM that you're connecting to the correct wire on the truck.

3. All information I'm seeing is that the lock wire on the vehicle is ORANGE / violet and unlock is pink/violet. Chrysler seems to have used a bizarre setup on the Rams with factory keyless entry, but this needn't concern you. Connect both wires as though they were reverse polarity (i.e. cut them, connect BROWN / black & WHITE/ black from the 211 to the respective switch sides, and blue/black & GREEN/ black to the respective motor sides) and the system should work.

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM

OK now there is a white /black wire to be connected which is the first this has been explained? Question, I have looked in the service manual for the term driver kick panel(dkp) can't find it. Is this the small panel on the floor next to the emergency brake pedal where when removed you find a wiring harness and connector that runs from that point and thru to the door, this is where I have found the pink/violet and ORANGE / violet wires.

Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM

The WHITE/ black wire from the Viper 211 gets connected to the switch side of the cut ORANGE / violet lock wire - the GREEN/ black from the Viper gets connected to the motor side.

Basically, you're going to assume that the ORANGE / violet lock wire on the truck is reversed polarity switching.

I realize some of the earlier posters in this thread said that the lock wire was positive trigger, and only the pink/violet unlock wire was reverse polarity. However, if you connect it as though it's reverse polarity, it will still work. If you connect it as though it's positive trigger and it's reverse polarity, you'll create a short circuit and keep blowing fuses.

"Driver's kick panel" technically is the trim piece to the left of the pedals and forward of the door opening - however in practice when the term is used to describe wire locations, a lot of times the wires can be found under the door sill trim or the lower left side of the dash.

In any case, if you've located the wires coming from the door you're in good shape.

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 4:37 PM

When I cut the ORANGE / violet wire to connect the WHITE/ black & the GREEN/ blk wire, after cutting the wire which of the two halves would be considered the switch side and the moter side?

Concerning the pink/violet wire, after cutting, I was thinking the cut wire near the connector would be considered the switch side to connect the blue/blk wire and the other side would be considered the car side to connect the BROWN / black wire?

I do appreciate the help.

Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM

If you haven't yet, it might help your understanding to read Directed's tech tip 1041 on doorlock wiring types. Positive trigger in their terminology is Type A, 5-wire reversing is Type C.

The "switch side" of the wire will be the one that goes toward the master switch. See page 6 of the linked PDF for more details.

Also, blue/black and GREEN/ black go toward the MOTOR side.

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 7:30 PM

last question and then if I can't get it done I will have it installed. When you speak of the "motor" side is that refered to as a motor in the door or the auto?

Posted By: x1le
Date Posted: February 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM

door, as in the door lock motor.

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 17, 2010 at 7:25 PM

chriswallace187, just want to let you know that your instructions were dead on, first try, wire for wire all works just as it should. Thanks for your time and patience.

Posted By: chriswallace187
Date Posted: February 17, 2010 at 11:34 PM

You're very welcome.

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM

While being concerned about getting the remote to operate which it does, push lock once the doors lock parking lights flash, push lock twice the doors lock the parking lights flash and the horn beeps, hold the panic button down and the horn beeps for some time. I got in my truck today only to find it won't start, no click or anything, the radio will only work when the key is in the acc position, in the run position the radio does not work and if I try to lock the doors with the switch at the door they will not lock? Any thoughts?

Posted By: tommy...
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Un-plug the unit and see if these features return...! Can you list your connections...? The truck is not starting with the key...? Is it a dead battery? Does it still lock with remote...?

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Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM

I unpluged the unit, will not start and the radio will not play in the run position only the acc position. I do not have remote start key only, the batteries are a year old never a problem starting in the coldest weather. The remote works without fail?

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 6:10 PM

It hasn't been mentioned, does the valet switch need to be plugged into the unti?

Posted By: clockmaker
Date Posted: February 19, 2010 at 6:48 PM

another thing, I do not have the blk / YELLOW wire at the dkp, there is a yellow/blk? I connected the white wire from the viper to the blk / YELLOW wire at the light switch.

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