Clifford Advantguard 3

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Topic: Clifford Advantguard 3

Posted By: twong
Subject: Clifford Advantguard 3
Date Posted: April 09, 2003 at 11:03 PM

I am new to the forums and not sure who to ask for help on this.

I have the Avantguard 3 since 1997 and drove my car daily until about 6 months ago.

I have always had battery problems, weak battery and replaced it several times. I have always thought it was other things that kept having a draw on the battery.

But since I have let the car sit now and not driving it all the time, I found the culprit of my battery problems. When I disconnect the battery(power to the alarm), I will hear relays click from the Avantguard 3 brain. Meaning that the relays are powered on all the time. (Even when not armed) Let me say that I have not had problems with the alarm all this time and I the install on this alarm myself.

Does anybody have a fix or found a solution to this? Or Is this normal for the Avantguard series alarm. For the time being I have disconnected the power to the alarm everytime I park for 2 days or more, if not the alarm will drain the battery down to a state of hard starting or not starting at all.

BTW, I have also the Clifford backup battery installed (The big Panasonic battery approx 3"X3.5"X6.25") and it has never held a charge over 12 volts(even when new). It usually reads 11.80-11.88. , I cant seem to find this backup battery anymore, just the DEI battery.

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Posted By: Velocity Motors
Date Posted: April 10, 2003 at 8:13 PM

What you have to do is isolate the relays that are being triggered and see what you did. There may be wires that were supposed to be IGN wires but you used constant power instead, and this would draw power to these relays. We sell slim Panasonic batteries that are sealed and dry cells as back up batteries if your interested.

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Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

Posted By: twong
Date Posted: April 10, 2003 at 11:59 PM

Thanks for your reply
The relays I am talking about are the internal relays inside the Advantguard 3 brain.

-Starter/Ignition are in a separate remote relay module on the advantguard 3.

The only relays I can think of that are in the brain would be internal door lock relays and domelight supervision. Negative door trigger and if it were active it would of killed my lock solenoids by now, Dome light superivision-Dome light is not on.

OR maybe for the seat memory?? This was never hooked up as I dont have power seats, Does it even have relays for this?

When I pull the power to the alarm (when disarmed) I hear the relays click inside the brain.

The problem with the Cifford backup battery is that Clifford's module is attached/glued (no visible wires to the battery) to the panasonic and battery somehow acharging it.-The only thing connected to the positive terminal of the battery is the +12v battery power to the alarm unit. The negative terminal is connected to body ground.