trouble wiring my xk01 and 5901 together
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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Topic: trouble wiring my xk01 and 5901 together
Posted By: v7guy
Subject: trouble wiring my xk01 and 5901 together
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 11:49 AM
I have a viper 5901 with the XK01 bypass using AMDL firmware.
I'm using the manual from here https://www.bypasskit.com/manual.aspx?prodid=XK01&catid=21
My problem is that I'm not finding matching terminology. For instance...
the XK01 Brown wire wants input ground when running.
I can't find anything on the 5901 that is "input ground when running."
XK01 Green wire wants lock output wire
I can't find a lock output wire on the 5901 there's a "(-) lock (+) unlock output" is this what I'm looking for?
XK01 Blue wire wants unlock output wire
I can't find a wire on the 5901 labeled unlock output. I see a (+)lock (-) unlock output, is that it?
XK01 Violet/White wire wants Door & trunk/hatch sense trigger input wire
Is that door trigger input on the 5901?
XK01 Orange wire wants disarm output
I don't see any wire labeled disarm output on the 5901
the other wires are labeled fine. OBD2 port, power, ground, dome light, I understand the hookup in the vehicle, just not the hook up between the two components. If someone can help me out or point me in the direction where I can find the info it would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: alarep5
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM
What is the vehicle? Make - model - year? If it is GM then I can help. I have installed many xko1's so I know what you need for wire connections. Sorry, I don't know wire designations for viper 5901 but maybe the following will help. Ground while running is an output wire from your remote starter( r/s) Any wire coming out of your r/s that is labeled "ground while running" is what you connect to brown wire of xko1. If there is no wire actually designated as "ground while running" then you will probably have to program a wire for that purpose. Or you can test wires to find one. Most, lock modules require a neg(-) feed from r/s for lock wires. So if you have both pos(+) and neg feeds, use neg. So connect xko1 blue-unlock to r/s blue neg unlock, connect xko1 green lock to r/s neg lock. The violet wire from xko1 is the data bus wire for GM. Purple wire at computer plug. Red to 12v constant, black to ground The orange wire is for trunk if you have one. ------------- OLDSCHOOL - If the wire is there,...use it.
Posted By: alarep5
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Oh, forgot to mention, the "ground while running" may be labeled "active while running" If you find a smaller, ga.(20-22 ga.) wire indicated "active" or "ground" while running is is probably a "neg" feed for a bypass or lock module. Most pos feeds from r/s modules are larger wires. ------------- OLDSCHOOL - If the wire is there,...use it.
Posted By: buddholly
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM
What kind of vehicle is this going in to? The brown wire should go to the relay out harness on the 5901. The blue wire is "Blue RS Status (-) 200mA" Blue/Green on the xk01 should run to the blue/green on the door lock harness for the 5901. Violet/White you shouldn't need to use. Orange usually needs to be connected if the factory security doesn't disarm upon remote starting.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 12:49 PM
use the supplied D2D cable and the only wire you have to hook up on the XK01 is the Violet to the OBD!!
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: v7guy
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 1:45 PM
the vehicle is a 2004 chevy trailblazer,
all my problems currently are related to connecting the XK01 and the 5901 together wire to wire. I've read plenty of problems on here and elsewhere about finicky Data to Data and just wanted to install and forget.
on another forum I've gotten the suggestion that the ground when running maybe... Remote Start Aux Output 5 - Blue (-) Status Output
Posted By: matthewjon
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 2:06 PM
for the ground when running, use the h2/10 (dark blue) wire, it is the status output wire.
I didnt have that wire hooked up correctly when I installed my 5901 in my truck a few weeks ago. A couple of the guys on set me straight, and it works like it should.
Hope this helps.
Posted By: alarep5
Date Posted: March 10, 2010 at 4:49 PM
v7guy, I have done hundreds of this car. Wire it like I described above, tape off any remaining wires. To be honest, I haven't had much luck with the XKO1 in the trailblazer. I switched to the GMDLBP, and have had no problems with it. The main complaint with the XKO1's was start but locks wouldn't work. I reset a lot of XKO1's and some never came back but many did. My installs were mainly in the Envoys which seem to be a little pickier than the trailblazers but I thought I better tell you about my experience with the XKO1's. If you have leather factory heated seats then you may want to consider the DLPKGM. It is supposed to turn the seat heat on if the engine temp is less than 30 degrees. Both these modules are easily programmed maually. Unless you are a shop installer, avoid the idatalink components. I use them and I like them, but you can't programm them manually. Good luck, let us know if you need more help. ------------- OLDSCHOOL - If the wire is there,...use it.
Posted By: v7guy
Date Posted: March 11, 2010 at 2:17 AM
I actually bought all of this stuff about a year ago. The XK01 was the recommended bypass at the time. I started wiring everything and then the misses found a house that was a deal that was to good to pass up. I gutted the house and redid everything and it took priority over everything else for the last year.
I had only half wired the 5901 and XK01 (my first alarm/r/s), looking back at it now I did a lot of the heavy gauge harness wrong and was surprised at the learning curve of auto security/bypass diagrams. the vagueness of the diagrams are hard to follow. I think I need a better understanding of this stuff in general. The T harness actually complicated things more since the wires are all different colored.
It's very frustrating that I can rebuild motors and transmissions, troubleshoot vehicle wiring problems but am having a lot of trouble installing a remote start/alarm.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM
i have used dozens of XK01's on Envoys, Trailblazer, etc with the 5901 and 5501 in D2D with no issues or comebacks at all..... in fact these and the 03-07 CK's are the only vehicles i actually use D2D on at all anymore...... like i said.... one wire to connect.... that's it...... ------------- Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: another-kelly
Date Posted: March 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM
kgerry wrote:
i have used dozens of XK01's on Envoys, Trailblazer, etc with the 5901 and 5501 in D2D with no issues or comebacks at all..... in fact these and the 03-07 CK's are the only vehicles i actually use D2D on at all anymore......
like i said.... one wire to connect.... that's it......
ditto
Posted By: sequoia2006
Date Posted: July 29, 2010 at 3:53 AM
Do you know if the XK01 would work with the Toyota Sequoia 2006?
Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: July 29, 2010 at 6:43 AM
xk01 will work with the correct firmware loaded to it
TOYDL v1.00 ------------- Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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Posted By: sequoia2006
Date Posted: July 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Thanks. I have bought both the XK01 and 530T window module and I am still confused whether I have to use the XK01, 530T or both to open/close my windows after a tons of reading online.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: July 30, 2010 at 2:39 PM
try it without the 530 first.... i know on my GX470 when i press and hold the lock or unlock the windows roll up or down..... ( found that out by accident when i came back to my vehicle to discover the sunroof open and all the windows down!!)
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: sequoia2006
Date Posted: July 30, 2010 at 3:30 PM
I will do that, thanks. Waiting for my XK01 and XK05 to arrive in the mail. I am trying to do as much research as possible so I won't screw it up.
Posted By: sequoia2006
Date Posted: July 30, 2010 at 4:07 PM
Should I connect the Viper 5901 using the idatalink to the XK01 or the XK05 and use the other wires for the other one since the brain only have 1 idatalink connection?
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: July 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM
they do make a D2D "Y" cable - XKYD2D5P..... but to be honest i would probably wire them both up W2W..... takes less than a minute longer and a bit more stable.....
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
Posted By: sequoia2006
Date Posted: July 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM
I was hoping to reduce the number of connections, but I'll follow your advices. Thanks.
Posted By: sequoia2006
Date Posted: August 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM
kgerry wrote:
try it without the 530 first.... i know on my GX470 when i press and hold the lock or unlock the windows roll up or down..... ( found that out by accident when i came back to my vehicle to discover the sunroof open and all the windows down!!)
How did you wire the XK01 in your GX470? I could only get it to lock/unlock, not the window rollup/down.
Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: August 24, 2010 at 10:43 AM
i didnt use an XK01... i hardwired them in the passenger kick if i remember correctly.... i just mentioned that i discovered if you hold the unlock it rolls everything down
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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979
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