689m 2000 f150

Has anyone used this module before i have a 2000 f150 manual trans with an asain wolf 8000RS remote start/alarm   its been in for 8 years and i had a recent accident using that starter i was looking at using the 689m module but reading the install guides for it says it needs the netural saftey wire i dont see one on this system   im trying to avoid replacing this whole system    any suggestions would be great thanks

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

the nuetral safety wire is basically the hand brake wire into the unit.

did you install the asianwold AUTOMATIC unit into your mannual tranny truck?

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
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unfortunaly i did    live and learn    there is no hand brake wire on this unit its looking more and more like im going to have to swap to another system   i like the system just cant afford to spend ahother 200 on the manaul version system i found the 689m on fleabay for 40 bucks

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

the unit should have a handbrake wire of some sort. it might be called something else. if you can upload the diagram of the unit, we miht be able to help.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

looks like the same as this one the install manual is at work but this looks the same from what i can remember

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

looks like your out of luck for this one.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

yea thats what i was thinking   thank you for trying

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

actaully, i hope you have the hood pin hooked up. Does it start with the hood open? If it doesnt start you might be lucky and it canbe done.

the 689m send a negative output to go into the handbrake wire. If you use a relay and wire it to the hood pin wire, when reservation mode is set it will start.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

i do have the hood pin connected and it wont start with the hood open but how would i connect the 689m with out a N/S wire to me it looks like the way the module works is it uses the netural saftey wire to kill the starter and uses the hand brake as an input to the module

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

you dont have a hand brake, but you do have a foot/emergency brake.

connect the 689m module up as per instructions.

take the neutral safety out, connect to a relay

85 - n/s from 689m
86 - constant 12v
cut your hood pin wire, from the switch, branch off 2 wires. one will go to the relay pin 87 and the other just to pin 30.
87a - ground
87 - hood pin wire switch side
30 - to hood pin shutdown wire on unit

how this will work is, when the 689m is ready,, the relay will latch 87 and 30. It see no ground so it will start. If the hood is opened during remote start, the wire connected from switch will cause the unit to shut down as its connected straight to the alarm.

if the 689m is not set, it will cause a straight ground to the hood pin wire disabling the remote start function. If you wire it up like so and it does not work, since some units it will monitor hood pin at all times, if its an alarm unit, it might cause continuous faults unless you can disable the trigger.

i have not ever wire it like this myself, im can visualize it in my head and that how i see it would work. If someone else ideas and or i wired it wrong, keep us posted.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

it is an alarm so wiring it like that will cause the alarm to go off all the time

i was thinking of using a relay to open up the starter wire coming from the remote start

pin 30 to either side of the cut starter wire
pin 87 to the other side of the starter wire
pin 85 to the N/S wire of the 689M
pin 86 to trucks ing wire

so the only way the starter wire will be able to start the truck is when the 689m puts ground to the relay and ing from the truck

what do you think ?

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe

that would work as well. However i never dealt with asianwolf units. Does it crank 3 times and if all fails it turns off?

if so it should be ok.

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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert

im not sure as far as i know it does it always starts on the first try (i have Tach hooked up) i never dealt with asianwolf before this one i havent had any problems with the system im not really that impressed by it though i think im going to give it a try it seems like it will work

thanks for your input tedmond

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If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe