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intersting problem with 5701 and rap

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Forum Name: Car Security and Convenience
Forum Discription: Car Alarms, Keyless Entries, Remote Starters, Immobilizer Bypasses, Sensors, Door Locks, Window Modules, Heated Mirrors, Heated Seats, etc.
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Printed Date: May 31, 2024 at 9:32 PM


Topic: intersting problem with 5701 and rap

Posted By: john fielding
Subject: intersting problem with 5701 and rap
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 5:07 PM

I have a viper 5701 installed on a 2007 Uplander and I have noted a bit of a problem with the remote start and the RAP (retain accessory power) after car turned off until door is opened.

Everything works fine, EXCEPT.... when I remote start the van, then turn off the van again with remote, the accessories (because of the RAP) stay on until some one goes out and physically opens the door of the van.

I figured an easy fix to the problem would be to simply disconnect the accessory output wire (big orange wire)and not use it. But to my amazement the accessory circuit continued to come to life anyway anyway (my guess is some sort of crossover somewhere between the ignition circuit and accessories) So the problem persists even with the orange wire disconnected.

What I was thinking of doing next is sending a pulse to the driver's side door switch (maybe use the factory arm wire or something similar) to sort of FAKE an opening/closing of the door after the remote shut down but then that may trigger the alarm.

I'm sure some body has run into this before so there must be a better way of handling this. Any ideas?

My wiring is nothing special. Routine stuff with nothing in the way of options.



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Posted By: john fielding
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 5:18 PM
Sorry, I should also add (if this makes any difference) that the ignition wire that I tied the 5701 (heavy pink wire) into was the pink ignition wire coming off the steering column (key ignition switch)and not at the BCM. This is also true for the starter input and output wires.




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 14, 2010 at 6:05 PM

leave the acc wire connected. you need to pulse the door pin wire after shutdown.



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 15, 2010 at 10:54 AM

that, plus RAP only stays on for about 10 minutes and shuts off automatically......



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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979




Posted By: tedmond
Date Posted: March 15, 2010 at 4:22 PM

I never understood how to do this for the units that didnt have pulse after shutdown outputs.

Kevin, would you diode isolate the lock wire to the door pin?



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Ted
2nd Year Tier 1 Medical School
Still installing as a hobby...pays for groceries
Compustar Expert




Posted By: kgerry
Date Posted: March 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM
rearm pulses doorpin... you could isolate it... if it's a - doorpin circuit i usually just make a direct connection to R/S rearm....

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Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer

Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979





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